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Postby iceman5 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:23 pm

The "PTBB" figure comes from Pokertracker. Is that where youre getting your win rate from?

Excession put it nicely when he said "If you have the bankroll and obtained it by winning at the tables then, at least at low limits, you are ready to move up.."


I know lots of guyw sho can afford to drop $400, but that in no way means they are good enough to play $400NL or even $50NL. If you deposit $500 and win for a couple weeks at $25NL, that doesnt mean you can play $50NL successfully. If you WIN $500 while playing $25NL over a normal time period that results in your win rate being respectable, then you should be ready (assuming your totoal roll is now near $1000)
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Postby excession » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:11 pm

5PTBB? I am usually playing one table to get the best feel of the table, I only play more tables when working off a bonus or when I am impatient but in the last case I shouldnt be playing at all.

OK you are playing 10c/25c $25 NL tables. The PTBB is twice the Big Blind or 50c
You are playing one table
Let's say 70 hands/hr max
You are making $10/hr - that is 20PTBB every 70 hands

or 28PTBB/100

You are absolutely crushing the game.

I have never heard of a long term win rate even at $25 tables better than 15PTBB (although most players play 2-3 tables at once from fairly eartly on).

I would say that you are more than ready to move up..and to try to add one more table
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Postby JayB » Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:23 pm

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I see under $ Won 4,17 and under BB/Hr. 12,05 whats the correct amount for PTBB?

As you can see, my most recent sessions has been winning sessions, I have build up the patience to play premium hands only and they hold up lately, I made most of my money calling of bluffs on the river on non scary boards.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:42 pm

This is really throwing me off. I guess this is how Europeans read numbers? Commas where we put a "point mark" and vice versa?

$0.184,86? Is that $184.86? Why is there a zero before the point mark?

Anyway, its easier to read your win rate from the "general" tab instead of the 'sessions" tab. However, I believe your win rate is 17.66PTBBs which is VERY good. Its only 3023 hands though, so you need more data.

The 12.05 number is PTBBs/ hr which we dont use because some people play more tables than others. if I play 5 tables and you only play 1, then my BB/hr number can easily be higher than yours if if you are winning at a much higher rate than me. PTBB / 100 hands compares out win rates every 100 hands. It doesnt matter how many tables I play. Its still 100 hands.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:33 pm

3k hands is really nowhere close to being able to tell a true win rate. When you have 10k or more you'll get closer. A few big wins or losses will influence 3k hands hugely.
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