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Postby Cactus Jack » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:06 am

Kenny, we may or may not be talking about the same thing.

A winrate to me isn't so much per hour as per bet or ROI. I'm playing mostly SNGs so that's what I know, kinda. My ITM is higher at $10 than $30, but my ROI is higher at the higher limit. I lose more often, but win more money. That's why I stated that a winrate at $50 is not sustainable at $200, but the ROI might be higher.

I really wish Alex would start that new topic so I could be the fly on the wall between you two. I'd like to learn more about this subject.

RE: 2+2 and completely off topic.

I agree with everything you said about those guys, but when it comes to the math part, there is no equal to that site. They are damn good at the math part. Fortunately for me, poker isn't all math. :) I use them, much like I use a calculator, since I'm not very good at math. Sometimes they really are full of chit. I agree. Sometimes, however, they are right. As long as you practice caveat emptor, you're on the right track, as far as poker advice is concerned.

With the 1table Tournament Forum, half their advice is right on, and half is nuts. It's the half that's right on is exactly where I'm weakest. Their push-bot style is ridiculous, but why they do it is not. Their insistence on playing Party is ridiculous, but their reasons are not. $/hr. They may be better than me, pre-flop, because they are slaves to the percentages, but not post flop, because they have no feel for the game. They play Party because they win more with their bot mindset, playing more games/hr. They'd be less successful at Pokerstars because you have to actually play more with more chips. The Encyclopedia has a place. Subtlety is not one of those places.

At least, that's my opinion. They'd, of course, have all kinds of numbers and charts that would disprove it. :D


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Postby excession » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:33 am

Because I like to be over-rolled and I haven't really got 6-max down yet - I think 6 max is the future of NL Holdem, so I want to get comfortable at it before move up to $200.

My actual PTBB/100 in the 10k hands since I started playing $100 NL 6 max is lousy (maybe 2 or so). It wasn't helped by a top set over middle set loss of my doubled up stack last night :x

But of course with the +5PTBB from the bonuses it's still a safe enough way to build up.

By comparison my long-term win rate across all sites at $50 Full Ring over 50k+ hands was in double figures.

My depleted rate at the mo' is a combination of lack of discipline, lack of experience in 6 max and just some bad luck I think...

Still so long as my roll is creeping up and I'm getting more exerience of 6 max I'm happy enough..
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Postby excession » Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:31 pm

I am actually playing the $200's now with a roll of $7k but buy in short at $80 until I get reads as it's at Stars (and if nice muppets are around I buy up to the full $200). I have also cleared $360 of Stars bonuses this week.

My win rate at the $200's 6 max is PTBB 8.79PTBB but was a slight loser at the $100's 6 max (positive only once bonuses were added in).

I found a big difference in skill between the $50's and $100's and no difference at all between the $100's and $200's (in fact I find reading players easier at the $200's).

A big jump in my game came about 2 weeks ago was when I realised that so many players donk push any draw that (a) it's great +EV to call them down once you have noted them as 'all-in draw donks' and (b) as other folks have learned to read all-in pushes as a donk on a draw it is massively +EV just to push on any drawing flop when you hit a made straight, set (or if you are short-stacked even 2 pair) on the flop esp in EP...you avoid the bad beats caused by slower play, worries about scare cards on turn/river and only need to get called once in while to make the all in push best EV..
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