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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2004-12-21T10:48:20-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=12&t=525&mode 2004-12-21T10:48:20-06:00 2004-12-21T10:48:20-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2860#p2860 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]>
The guy had amazing luck. Three hands in a row, he called big bets on the flop needing 2 perfect cards on the turn & river to make his hand. And he got them. I started salivating.

This was an online tournament. There would be no moving seats to give myself the advantage.

So I waited. And I watched his play very closely, until I could predict very accurately exactly what he would do on the flop.

Then, when I found myself in a heads-up situation with him... with a good hand - the absolute nuts in this case... I played him. I knew exactly the play I needed to make to get him to push all his chips in. I knew he'd never call my all-in raise, but if I minimum bet the flop and then checked the turn, he'd all-in in an effort to push me off. I made that play at him and he bit... he left and my stack doubled.

Patience. Don't tilt. Don't think you'll ever get as lucky as the maniac does.

If you're patient, the cards and the chips will come. If you're impatient, your chips will go.

Statistics: Posted by BigPhish — Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:48 am


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2004-12-20T16:17:19-06:00 2004-12-20T16:17:19-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2804#p2804 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]> I think the main thing that helped me though was a post or article on this site that ceman wrote about EV. It's hard to remember when you reaching into your pocket for another buy in that you will win that hand 8 of 9 times though.

Statistics: Posted by checker-pete — Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:17 pm


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2004-12-19T18:07:04-06:00 2004-12-19T18:07:04-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2711#p2711 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]>
The tactic I decided on was to tighten up but when I had my hands mug him. At the end of the day no one likes to be taken for a ride so whenever I had something good I would fall in behind he betting. Since his betting and raising often meant any hand you were in with him would be heads up it was easy just to wait then I would check raise the turn. I was making sure I was playing solid hands against him but pushing harder when I felt I had it. I wasn't drawing to much unless with things like ace high flush as it was tough to figure you would have odds past the flop, especially multi-way due to betting and raising.

While I took a few lumps since the hands I was hitting I was able to make pay off larger I was actually able to make good progress. The point about using him to isolate was so true. When in hand you didn't want to many it was easy to open and let him raise making it two cold for anyone wanting to play. I would frequently cap the turn with hands like top pair when the board wasn't scary.

Infact this worked almost too well near the end since he started folding on the turn paying off less as he started getting wise. Nothing like getting muchos respect to make you feel good. By using him to isolate and prevent too many multi-way pots I found hands like top pair, two pair etc where working real well, the sort of stuff that normally gives you heart faliure.

It is sometimes more full contact than is comfortable but you don't have to hit every hand to come out ahead and playing "proper" poker will put you in the situations where you should be ahead more often that now. Hope this helps.

Rich

Statistics: Posted by Ricardooon — Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:07 pm


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2004-12-17T12:25:28-06:00 2004-12-17T12:25:28-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2574#p2574 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:25 pm


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2004-12-17T10:38:45-06:00 2004-12-17T10:38:45-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2565#p2565 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]> Statistics: Posted by checker-pete — Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:38 am


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2004-12-17T00:06:58-06:00 2004-12-17T00:06:58-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2548#p2548 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]>
When playing against a maniac: "Bet less, and Call more"


Jay

Statistics: Posted by Jason D — Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:06 am


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2004-12-16T22:44:14-06:00 2004-12-16T22:44:14-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2545#p2545 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]>
If you can't get to his left, i would keep leading into him when you have a moderately strong hand so hopefully he raises you and forces out draws or hands that are better than yours because likely you have the maniac beat. Also, if you see the table getting loose and being bullied by becoming passive, look for drawing hands lik 9Ts because you know if you hit, you will be winning a nice sized pot. Obviously your variance will be high this way but if you pick your moments, you can end up with a nice session.

Statistics: Posted by briachek — Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:44 pm


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2004-12-16T22:00:29-06:00 2004-12-16T22:00:29-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=525&p=2543#p2543 <![CDATA[How do you deal with a maniac]]>
I'm not whining or telling bad beat stories, i just want to know if there is a defense besides leaving the table before these guys self destruct and take me with them.

Statistics: Posted by checker-pete — Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:00 pm


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