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I think you got a little too excited about the ace landing. On the Q98 board, you're more likely against a set or a straight, than two pair (89 is possible, but Q9 and Q8 are less likely) 88 99 and TJ are common hands that people might want to peak at a flop with.from UTG+2. Q8 Q9 and 89 are less likely UTG+2 hands, IMO.
I might 3 bet the flop, and even lead out against a cap on the turn if against a loose/aggressive post-flop player, but against a normal or tight player, I back down after a 2nd raise or reraise, and call it down.
Statistics: Posted by Ichoi — Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:31 pm
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Also... there's no point in leading out with a bet on the river there. You're nearly positive you're behind unless he REALLY overplayed something. Just check-call it and hope for the best.
3-bet the flop, check-call to river if he 4-bets flop. Raise turn if he doesn't 4-bet the flop.
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:09 pm
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Preflop: Hero is SB with
![[Qh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
, ![[Ad]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
. UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB)
![[Qd]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
, ![[9h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
, ![[8c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
(5 players)Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 raises, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.
Turn: (5 BB)
![[Ac]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
(2 players)Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls.
River: (9 BB)
![[6d]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6d.gif "The Six of Diamonds")
(2 players)Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Qh Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
UTG+2 has 9d 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 13 BB.
I suppose I could have folded on the flop after he raised me, but I had top pair. Was the board scary enough for me to fold? JT would have given him a straight. On the turn I have top 2 pair and the ace didn't help his straight possibilities. Although he kept betting, I had top 2 pair and was reluctant to fold. So, 5.5 BB down the drain. Just out of curiosity I looked at 15 2 pair hands I've had lately, and I lost 13 times. I guess 2 pair should be folded to any resistance! Clueless as usual.
George
Statistics: Posted by geofrank — Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:50 pm
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