Once upon a time I flopped 2 pair that went to a full house on the turn and improved to quads on the river! Now that was my kind of hand. I actually won that one.
George
Statistics: Posted by geofrank — Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:19 am
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At the same time, you're not alone. I don't fold as often as I should either...and I'm sure plenty of others would agree that it's not easy to drop AA. So don't take this as undue criticism, but as a chance to save some bets in the future. As a rule, it's best not to even consider yourself as having two pair when one pair is on the board. In this case, you technically had top two pair on the turn, and top two is generally a strong hand...but with the two jacks out there and based on the action (both flop and turn, but especially the turn), you need to lay down here.
-TW
Statistics: Posted by TightWad — Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:01 pm
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Preflop: Hero is SB with
![[As]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
, ![[Ah]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
. 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (9 SB)
![[Jd]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jd.gif "The Jack of Diamonds")
, ![[3c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3c.gif "The Three of Clubs")
, ![[5s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5s.gif "The Five of Spades")
(4 players)Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, MP1 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.
Turn: (9 BB)
![[Jh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
(3 players)Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.
River: (21 BB)
![[Ks]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ks.gif "The King of Spades")
(3 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 24 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and jacks).
UTG+2 has Kc Jc (full house, jacks full of kings).
CO has Th Js (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 24 BB.
Is this just variance in action? My only conclusion is with a pair on board and raises by opponents, fold 2 pair, even if one pair is aces. But I had 4 outs to a full house myself, and the pot was huge. Starting to view poker as an unpleasant experience, kind of like root canal or maybe a prostate exam done 4 times just to make sure! Oh well, comments appreciated. Thanks.
George
Statistics: Posted by geofrank — Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:40 pm
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