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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-09-11T15:45:10-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=12&t=6497&mode 2005-09-11T15:45:10-06:00 2005-09-11T15:45:10-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46500#p46500 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:45 pm

]]> 2005-09-11T11:37:05-06:00 2005-09-11T11:37:05-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46437#p46437 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]>
I haven't played the higher limit tables (and I defer to Piers here) at Party/Empire, but I'm sure that as you move up in limits, the quality of players become better and the plays defined here by EP9 become significantly -EV.

I think that the ideas presented by EP9 are sound at these no-foldem games. My advice to him and other low-limit players is to tighten up SIGNIFICANTLY as your limits (and hopefully your bankroll) increase.

I appreciate your discussion, and you make solid points. Just be sure to understand that these ideas WILL NOT BE +EV as you move up. Here at BTP, we want every one of our members to be profitable players. That's why we give advice and have the forum. Good luck at the tables!

Statistics: Posted by Tiburon — Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:37 am

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]]> 2005-09-11T00:59:35-06:00 2005-09-11T00:59:35-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46337#p46337 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:59 am

]]> 2005-09-10T16:34:42-06:00 2005-09-10T16:34:42-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46221#p46221 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by piersmajestyk — Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:34 pm

]]> 2005-09-10T16:20:19-06:00 2005-09-10T16:20:19-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46210#p46210 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by Tiburon — Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:20 pm

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Anyhow, I'm going to leave this thread open for discussion on all these issues. And starting a Part 2 thread for further topics.

I really don't feel like Piers "Beating Online Limit Hold'Em" sticky is the most profitable way to play loose low-limit games. Reading, re-reading, and applying SSHE concepts will crush these games and that's what my posts detail.

*No disrespect to Piers or anything. I know he's an exceptional player and has much more experience than me. But his guide was meant for beginners play to keep them out of trouble, and I think eventually people need to take the training wheels off. When you do, you'll become a much better player. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

So, if you're just starting limit hold'em and haven't read too much, stick with Piers guide and you'll still be a winner. But if you want more than break-even play, you have to better adjust to the situations.

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:05 pm

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There is also the SB, who may call as well.

Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:26 pm

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I'll probably write about betting marginal hands for value next time.

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:52 pm

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There's many adjustments you must make to crush extremely loose low-limit games. Those who have read and understood the concepts in SSHE have a HUGE advantage over other players in these games - that's the skill element.

You bet your marginal hands for value more. You have the odds to play many more speculative hands. You have the odds to call with many weak draws. You pre-flop raise hands in positions you would probably fold from in tighter games. Since there's more huge pots, you make more liberal calls on the river. You bet the living crap out of your stronger draws since you'll be called in enough places to actually be a bet for value.

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:52 pm

]]> 2005-09-10T14:37:53-06:00 2005-09-10T14:37:53-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46182#p46182 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]>
What would a maniac bet on the river I can beat? Unimproved a-high, busted draw, bottom pair, and absolutely nothing are all candidates. Heads-up against the maniac I would call this river regardless of the odds.

What would an extra loose caller call with here that I can beat? A-high, busted draw (I've seen them even call down with 8-high!!), and bottom pair. It was quite obvious he didn't have a J.

Can I eeke out 6% here? Once again, this isn't an objective analysis since my thoughts are results-oriented now. If I only had a-high or bottom pair, I would fold here because of the overcall. But here I had middle pair (ignoring the J since there's a great chance no one had it).

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:37 pm

]]> 2005-09-10T14:33:16-06:00 2005-09-10T14:33:16-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46180#p46180 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by Tiburon — Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:33 pm

]]> 2005-09-10T14:25:46-06:00 2005-09-10T14:25:46-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46175#p46175 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:25 pm

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When you lambast me for calling with middle pair, you're not even paying attention to the pot odds. Or how ridiculously loose and stupid the table was. 94% of the time I would lose with that call, but still, it's the right call to make (given the table conditions).

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:58 pm

]]> 2005-09-10T13:12:25-06:00 2005-09-10T13:12:25-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6497&p=46165#p46165 <![CDATA[You're Playing Too Tight (making more money @ low-limit)]]> Statistics: Posted by Tiburon — Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:12 pm

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