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Let's say you're in the BB with complete trash (94o or whatever). CO open-raises, SB calls. You should fold. You don't want to play 94o 3-handed even against a likely steal attempt from the CO since the SB likely has a decent hand. If SB folded, then there's a Piers case for calling.
When the pot will be 3-handed, you shouldn't be calling from the BB except with pocket pairs, premium hands, and your stronger suited connectors (for me, anything 54s or higher).
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:59 pm
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If this is the case, then I was under the wrong impression about the reason for, and process of, defending your blind. I'm sure I'm showing my noobness with these questions but I thought there was a difference between "playing from the blind" and "defending your blind". I thought that when you were playing from the bilnd you were doing so with a very strong starting hand with the intent of winning as big a pot as you would normally try to win from the other positions. And that defending your blind meant playing a hand that would normally be considered crap with the hope of winning the hand with a lucky flop outright or forcing the raiser off the best hand and then getting to show him your cards so that he would know not to fuck with you when it's your blind. Like I said, I probably misunderstood all this but that was the basis I have been working from. Obviously this has been the hardest part of the Limit game for me to learn and I do appreciate the help.
Statistics: Posted by SebQtaneus — Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:27 pm
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Against a loose stealer (like this CO), if SB folds, I probably call. Then I go for the ol' check-raise, regardless of what hits. But against a steal and a call, a 5 and a 4 are two pieces of trash. You fold them even if they're suited. You want to have high cards against a steal, not tiny connectors. You're not looking to draw to a straight here, as the implied odds are about as low as they can be. Even if you hit your straight on fourth or fifth street, you're not likely to get paid for it. Remember, he's stealing with a trash hand. He's not looking for a showdown.
I think you misunderstood my post from yesterday completely. When I said that it's ok to gamble with connectors once in a while (preferably at least JT or T9 as you don't want draw to the low end of a straight), I meant in a raised pot with several callers. If you hit your straight and you're up against big pairs... well, this time you will get paid - big time. It's all about implied odds.
If a loose CO or Button open-raises for the umpteenth time, you can consider calling with 72 if it's heads-up (this is very important) to try to muscle him out of the pot and show him you won't be pushed around.
"Other" forum threads that might be of some help:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showf ... =5&o=&vc=1
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/sho ... t=all&vc=1
Statistics: Posted by majakovskij — Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:54 am
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I'm not denying that this is marginal but I don't think its so bad. Its definitely much better than the last one.
Statistics: Posted by briachek — Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:06 pm
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Flop: I would have lead out with a bet. Once again, recognize who pre-flop raised. Betting here would allow him to raise and knock out the SB. You found a lucky SB willing to fold one more bet back to him.
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:28 pm
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Empire Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
![[5h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5h.gif "The Five of Hearts")
, ![[4s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4s.gif "The Four of Spades")
. 3 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (6 SB)
![[2h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2h.gif "The Two of Hearts")
, ![[5s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5s.gif "The Five of Spades")
, ![[2c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2c.gif "The Two of Clubs")
(3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero raises, CO calls, SB folds.
Turn: (5.50 BB)
![[4c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4c.gif "The Four of Clubs")
(2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.
River: (7.50 BB)
![[Qs]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
(2 players)Hero bets, CO folds.
Final Pot: 8.50 BB
Statistics: Posted by SebQtaneus — Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:03 pm
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