Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
![[8s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
, ![[8h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8h.gif "The Eight of Hearts")
. CO posts a blind of $1. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (11 SB)
![[Ah]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
, ![[3d]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3d.gif "The Three of Diamonds")
, ![[8c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
(5 players)SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Button raises, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (9.50 BB)
![[6h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
(4 players)Hero bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Button calls.
River: (12.50 BB)
![[9c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
(3 players)Hero bets, MP2 folds, Button calls.
Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 8s 8h (three of a kind, eights).
Button has 3s As (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 14.50 BB.
Statistics: Posted by piersmajestyk — Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:24 pm
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The best move by far in this situation is a call in my opinion. You have two folks already committed to one bet in the pot and I can tell you they are going to call one more bet regardless of what they are holding 99.99% of the time. If you three bet here they are gone in almost all instances and you will have lost their two extra bets on the flop while gaining only one most likely from the button. This board is so inert of danger to my hand I have no fear whatsoever of giving these guys another card on the turn. The lack of a raise after my bet from the preflop raiser is pretty much a sign he doesn't have an Ace but probably some other pair. By keeping these guys in the pot hopefully you can extract even more out of them if they happen to pick up something on the turn.
Onward.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
, . CO posts a blind of $1. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (11 SB)
, , (5 players)SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Button raises, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (9.50 BB)
(4 players)What is your turn play? Would this play change if say the preflop raiser had been the flop raiser instead of the button?
Statistics: Posted by piersmajestyk — Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:38 pm
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Piers, I'll definitely be down for a LHE match or two in a couple days, once I get a little cash on stars. And who knows, if I'm drunk enough I might just take ya up on the Stud-8 as well
-TW
Statistics: Posted by TightWad — Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:57 pm
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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
, . CO posts a blind of $1. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises,
1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (11 SB)
, , (5 players)SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Button raises, SB folds, Hero
By the way TW I am surprised you haven't challenged me to Match of 7 stud h/l as of yet. What gives?
Statistics: Posted by piersmajestyk — Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:44 pm
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Im afraid that if i just check it, both of these guys are just gonna check.
And if i check raise i might loose both players and i want them IN!
I really hate to check/call but that would prob be an ok play, but I really hate doing that.
Statistics: Posted by striker2550 — Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:09 pm
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Your other two options, obviously, are check-call or check-raise. Even though I think this flop is very likely to bet bet by someonie, that bet is not likely to be called by very much other than an ace. So check-raising gives you the problem that you might not have anyone much to trap in anyway, plus it gives away the strength of your hand.
Check-calling is just bad, because it gives you no real information (unless there's a bet and a raise), so you don't know whether you can get away with a check-raise on the turn.
If you lead out and get raised, I'd call because I think you'll probably be able to get it for 2 bets on the turn. If you lead out and get called, just bet it down.
In summary, I think that if one of your opponents has an ace, a lead-out can get you 2 SB's on the flop, 2 on the turn, and 1 on the river...where as check-raising is more likely to get you 2 SB's on the flop, and just 1 each on the turn and river.
-TW
Statistics: Posted by TightWad — Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:07 pm
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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is BB with
, . CO posts a blind of $1. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (11 SB)
, , (5 players)SB checks,
Statistics: Posted by piersmajestyk — Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:04 am
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