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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-10-15T23:45:12-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=12&t=7481&mode 2005-10-15T23:45:12-06:00 2005-10-15T23:45:12-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55895#p55895 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:45 pm


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2005-10-15T11:49:22-06:00 2005-10-15T11:49:22-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55758#p55758 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]>
2) I'm a big fan of turn check raises. The $10/$20 shorthanded people are real aggressive so you can practically always get in a check raise.

Statistics: Posted by Xaston — Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:49 am


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2005-10-15T11:08:39-06:00 2005-10-15T11:08:39-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55743#p55743 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]>
1) in the OP situation... what if you raise and villain 3-bets? what action from there on flop and later streets.

2) what if you are the villain in the OP, and you hit a set (or even 2pr -- unlikely with 942 unless you are MK)? how do you progress if the AJ comes back at you? That is, how do you milk it?

Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:08 am


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2005-10-15T02:19:25-06:00 2005-10-15T02:19:25-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55688#p55688 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]>
Whether my outs are tainted or not, I really do not know against the looser players. I know it's not as likely as 3-handed and beyond. Still, A9, A4, A2, and K9 are perfectly reasonable calling hands for the loosest players. Perhaps heads-up I should consider my outs as not quite full outs, but something better than half an out each. And then I can also add the possibility my a-high or k-high is still good.

I'll try a few different ways of playing this scenario and see what works best.

Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:19 am


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2005-10-14T20:24:21-06:00 2005-10-14T20:24:21-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55629#p55629 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by MecosKing — Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:24 pm


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2005-10-14T19:49:41-06:00 2005-10-14T19:49:41-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55624#p55624 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by Xaston — Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:49 pm


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2005-10-14T17:53:29-06:00 2005-10-14T17:53:29-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55609#p55609 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> (a) A headsup pot and
(b) a ragged board where theres probably no issue of tainted outs and/or your outs making his hand, i.e. a good chance that you will win if you spike a pair.

If the board is ridiculously coordinated like a three flush or the cards are too close together like 456, 689 with two to a suit or some such nonsense or something like that, then i may fold the flop to a weak lead from a LAG since not only might i make my hand and still lose, theres too high of a potential for a good draw on a board like that, which means that a LAG might threebet my flop raise and lead into me even if he misses, and make it damn near impossible to call. Even a passive player will sometimes fire at you again on the turn if his draw is good enough (lets say he has A9 and flops 8JT), even if he misses. Basically, boards that are too drawy enable people to get too aggressive with you, and make it too hard ot figure out where you are at, so your better off folding oftentimes.

Basically, on a real scary board i will fold a decent amount. But even then, oftentimes its better to peel one...especially against passive players, because if they are on a draw and dont have a pair, they will often give up and check on the turn. If they fire again, then like i said, more power to em. I like the call because against a passive player, it makes him fear the raise on the turn, which is a very popular move on the old SH tables with an overpair or TPGK, or even second pair a PP lower than the top pair for that matter, if you are in position.

See, in shorthanded the pots endup headsup matches very often, and because of that you have to be much less prone to laydown than you are in a full game. People play draws more aggro and go on more stone cold moves, and because of this, you are obviously put into many more marginal situations, like the ones we are talking about. You are right that never folding would be a leak, and i definitely think theres a time for just giving up, but way more often than not, in a headsup pot on a ragged and relatively uncoordinated board, folding too often is an even bigger one.

Cmon Xas, back me up here! What do you think?

Statistics: Posted by MecosKing — Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:53 pm


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2005-10-14T17:04:36-06:00 2005-10-14T17:04:36-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55602#p55602 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:04 pm


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2005-10-14T15:06:22-06:00 2005-10-14T15:06:22-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55582#p55582 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by MecosKing — Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:06 pm


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2005-10-12T12:58:32-06:00 2005-10-12T12:58:32-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55136#p55136 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:58 pm


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2005-10-11T19:27:19-06:00 2005-10-11T19:27:19-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55040#p55040 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]>
Call me weak tight, but unless I know someone to overdefend their blinds, I just muck most of the time.

Statistics: Posted by Ichoi — Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:27 pm


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2005-10-11T18:36:01-06:00 2005-10-11T18:36:01-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7481&p=55025#p55025 <![CDATA[Defending Against the Weak Leads]]> Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:36 pm


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