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(p.s. is there a way a flat out delete your posts?)
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:41 pm
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TW: " I can peg him nearly 100% on AK"
If TW was less confident tighty held exactly AK, I'd bet-call the river instead. This is a matter of applying the Fundamental Theorm of Poker: you gain money everytime you play optimally if you could see your opponent's hand. With (nearly) 100% confidence, that's the same as seeing your opponent's hand. And with his tight-unimaginative image, he will more likely than not bet that river.
The scenario Barry mentions is completely different. It was not obvious your opponent held something like AK since you did not bet or raise anywhere with QT, and the river card paired the board - an obvious scare card.
And TW mentioned his image was nothing out of line.
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:35 am
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His turn raise says he doesn't merely have JJ, so yes, C/R that river the way it's been played.
Statistics: Posted by EscapePlan9 — Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:16 pm
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I suppose it's possible that I'm giving him too narrow a 3-bet range, but I really don't think so. Particularly because I had really started the session out playing super tight, not really stealing or playing weak hands at all...so it's not like I had the sort of mizorly image that would provoke a 3-bet from a hand like AJ or AT.
-TW
Statistics: Posted by TightWad — Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:49 pm
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed)
Preflop: TW is CO with
![[8c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
, ![[9c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
. 2 folds, TW raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, TW calls.
Flop: (7.40 SB)
![[Qc]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qc.gif "The Queen of Clubs")
, ![[8s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
, ![[5s]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5s.gif "The Five of Spades")
(2 players)TW checks, Button bets, TW raises, Button calls.
Turn: (5.70 BB)
![[Kh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
(2 players)TW bets, Button raises, TW calls.
River: (9.70 BB)
![[9d]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
(2 players)TW bets, Button calls.
Final Pot: 11.70 BB
Results in white below:
TW has 8c 9c (two pair, nines and eights).
Button has Ah Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: TW wins 11.70 BB.
Initially, I was pretty satisfied with how I played the hand. When he calls my check-raise and then raises the turn, I can peg him nearly 100% on AK, and my pot odds are pretty much exact to call in hopes of hitting my 5-outer, with a small overlay considering that I figure on making 1 more big bet if I hit. Now granted, my odds go way down if there's a significant chance he holds a hand like KQ or a set, but I was really pretty confident that he had the hand he did.
My main question is this; as I said, I had the odds to call his turn raise and hope to improve...but why was I betting the turn to begin with? Check-folding seems weak, but I really think it's the line I should've taken. I suppose there's some chance he folds something like JJ or TT (though I'm not even sure he would've 3-bet TT)...but was that bet just spewing? I really can't put him on a hand like AJ or AT, no way he 3-bets with those.
I guess the point I'm making is that my turn call was correct as far as pot odds, but only because I made it correct by making a bad lead-out bet to begin with...does that sounds about right?
Secondary question : does anyone go for a check-raise on the river (assuming that for some reason you made it that far
) or do you think leading out is best?-TW
Statistics: Posted by TightWad — Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:16 pm
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