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While you end up having success here, I think bottom set is a very tough hand to play. The real difficulty is that you just don't know what helps you except for another 9. I think that's the reason why the classic rule is top 2 or middle or top set. On top 2, you at least know that the board pairing one of your cards gives you a pretty strong hand, even though you're behind (like on this one) to bottom set.
For those reasons, if it were me, I'd probably lay it down on the flop, although I think playing it kind of defensively, as you did, isn't at all bad either.
One question I also have is raising the flop here. In theory, you are then up against AJ (9 instances), JJ (3 instances) and AA (3 instances). That means (again in theory) that 6 times you lose $6 and 9 times you win $3.
Or, an alternative view would be to say that it's just all-in on that flop vs. the range other sets and AJ. Even there, it's marginal, because AJ has 4 outs against you, whereas your 99 has only 1 against AA and JJ. So, you effectively lose always against JJ/AA but win only about 75% of the time against AJ.
I dunno, I think there are good reasons for not really wanting to go with bottom set in Omaha.
I suppose that yet another dimension is your low flush redraw against possible AA or JJ, which probably puts the EV against those same hands significantly higher.
I guess there are a lot of ways to play this hand (pushing hard on the flop, for example), but it's a difficult hand to play. That's why I think I would have just let it go on this board, although maybe that's too weak-tight...
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:38 pm
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Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.40
UTG+1: $8.01
MP1: $14
MP2: $47.24
CO: $49.27
Hero: $24
SB: $4.75
BB: $23.65
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with
![[9c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
![[6h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
![[7h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7h.gif "The Seven of Hearts")
![[9d]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
UTG, folds, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB (poster) checks.
Flop:
![[Jh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
![[Ad]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
![[9h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
($1.5, 6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $1.45, CO folds, Hero calls $1.45, 3 folds.
Turn:
![[4d]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4d.gif "The Four of Diamonds")
($4.4, 2 players)MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3.
River:
![[4c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4c.gif "The Four of Clubs")
($10.4, 2 players)MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3.
Results:
Final pot: $16.4
MP2 shows Ac Qs 7d Jd
Hero shows 9c 6h 7h 9d
Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:11 pm
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