One thing you "find out" is just how big a hand you're up against. Sure, if you're likely up against a very thin hand from the beginning, then pushing the flop is fine. But this guy really looks to me like KK or JJ (more likely in light of your K), possibly also KJ. And I doubt any of those hands is going away here.
If he's just making a CB on his AA, it's unusual (at least at most of the games I've been playing) to keep pushing the turn with such a big bet.
Not saying the check-raise on the flop is necessarily bad, but, personally, I'd need a bit of a read before going for that. I want him to be capable of laying down AA in that spot for sure. If he's going to go ahead and push (which at that point you essentially have to call), I don't see why you should get it all in as underdog.
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 am
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Turn:
![[3c]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3c.gif "The Three of Clubs")
($19.65, 2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets $18.7, Hero??
This is the predicament I got myself in by calling the flop, is this a fold? Or have I invested too much?
Situations like this I really don't know what to do. It seems to me that I must fold here if I call the flop, since if I was going to call the turn when a blank hits I might as well have gone all in on the flop, right? Also, If I call the flop and a flush card hits, there's a chance i'm not going to get paid off (which is the point Aisthesis was talking about in his other threads) so it leads me to think that pushing this flop is probably the better idea after all. Thoughts on that?
Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:06 am
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But here, you have several things going for you. You already have TPTK, which is behind to AA or KJ, ok, but ahead of some draws. But you also have the gutshot, giving you 12 secure outs, and you may even be ahead.
I think I'd like to call this, though, more often than raising, unless I feel like there's quite a bit of fold equity--like a player who will make a CB then easily lay down.
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:42 am
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Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.93
Hero: $24.75
MP1: $25
MP2: $25.05
MP3: $34.98
CO: $2
Button: $6.73
SB: $27.05
BB: $12.80
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
![[Qd]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
![[Ks]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ks.gif "The King of Spades")
![[Qh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
![[Ah]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
UTG folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 raises to $1.6, 3 folds, BB calls $1.35, Hero calls $1.35, MP1 calls $1.35, MP2 folds.
Flop:
![[Jc]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
![[Kh]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
![[6h]](http://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
($6.75, 4 players)BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $6.45, BB folds, Hero??
I'm really trying to work on my PLO game and here is another situation i'm not sure of the correct move. Call and try to make my hand, raise to put the pressure on him if he has AA or AK or something, or fold since it's unlikely my flush will get paid off if it hits? I'm at sea in situations in like this. I have a note on him that he doesn't only raise AA, so it's perfectly plausible for him to have KK/JJ here, or even a huge wrap himself.
Statistics: Posted by GodlikeRoy — Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:55 am
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