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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2004-12-15T16:44:14-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=487&mode 2004-12-15T16:44:14-06:00 2004-12-15T16:44:14-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2424#p2424 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:44 pm


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2004-12-15T13:54:10-06:00 2004-12-15T13:54:10-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2408#p2408 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> BB opponent is weak/ calling station etc.
UTG opponent is ABC
couple of limpers to me in cutoff. I call with 6s5s. blinds call


If limpers raise say 8% of their hands and are loose pre-flop then I think I'm raising 5xBB from the button :)

Statistics: Posted by excession — Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:54 pm


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2004-12-15T13:50:48-06:00 2004-12-15T13:50:48-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2407#p2407 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:50 pm


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2004-12-15T10:29:16-06:00 2004-12-15T10:29:16-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2386#p2386 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]>
I don't know if you realize this..but Royal Vegas is full of calling stations. They will call down AK and the like..and raise when they hit. It's just the nature of the games there. Granted, I don't know if this guy had notes on me or not...but if he didn't he could very well think I called down with something like AK or QK.

Anyway,
Maybe I put too much emphasis on the king in my original post. The king is a good scare card ALONG with everything else that is out. He now has to consider I may have the king, a straight, trips, two pair etc. etc. The king just added to the crap he had to look out for. With a cold call on the flop and now a raise to him when he is out of position..with that much stuff out..unless he has a monster, it's a fold for him.

I still don't think he was folding to a flop raise... The turn raise just made my hand look ultra strong. Whereas a flop raise could mean anything in this situation.... but most likely a draw.

Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:29 am


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2004-12-15T09:56:19-06:00 2004-12-15T09:56:19-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2382#p2382 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:56 am


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2004-12-15T09:05:16-06:00 2004-12-15T09:05:16-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2373#p2373 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]>
Thanks for the good words on my play. I'm confused as to why you would "mix it up" and call the turn here. TJ Cloutier says that you shouldn't call a bet in NL unless you are setting them up on another street. That's what I did on the flop.

Granted the guy only bet $12 in to the $48 giving you 1 in 4. But if you call the turn and hit your draw on the river...you will not win any additional money because the 4 to the straight will be out.. Matter of fact you may even split the pot with the weak BB player.

Just my reasoning...maybe you can tell me what you meant to do by mixing it up like that?

Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:05 am


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2004-12-15T08:57:20-06:00 2004-12-15T08:57:20-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2372#p2372 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]>
My feeling is that my cold call on the flop and then raise on the turn looked much, much stronger then a reraise on the flop. A flop raise in this kind of hand, usually signifes a straight draw. Considering this guy is ABC...I assume he would either call or reraise me in that spot if he is holding a decent pocket pair.

A raise when that offsuit king comes out...that is so scary for him. The board is already very coordianted...then an overcard hits and I make a reraise. It's a very tough call for him. And he still has to call the river as well (assuming I have the balls to fire another shell.).

Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:57 am


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2004-12-15T03:32:21-06:00 2004-12-15T03:32:21-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2357#p2357 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> Statistics: Posted by Mad Genius — Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:32 am


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2004-12-15T00:20:09-06:00 2004-12-15T00:20:09-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2354#p2354 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> Statistics: Posted by Bob314 — Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:20 am


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2004-12-14T23:15:04-06:00 2004-12-14T23:15:04-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=487&p=2351#p2351 <![CDATA[You guys like this play or is it too risky for you? 1/2 NL]]> All stacks are around $200.
BB opponent is weak/ calling station etc.
UTG opponent is ABC
couple of limpers to me in cutoff. I call with [6s][5s]. blinds call

FLOP pot: $11
[5c][4s][3h]

I have flopped top pair with a weak kicker...openended draw and a backdoor flush draw.
Big blind (weak player) bets out $2, ABC opponent (UTG) raises to $12. I don't think my hand is winning...but I have outs and position. I call. Folded to the BB who also calls.

TURN pot $47
[5c][4s][3h][Kd]
well obviously this card is not good for my hand. But i'm thinking that has to be scary to both the blind and the raiser...unless they are holding a monster. BB checks, UTG bets out $12... I raise to $36. BB folds instantly and UTG thinks awhile and folds.

Obviously the play worked this time. I figured UTG probably had pocket 77s-10s and that king was a great scare card. I also thought my raise might look like a flopped straight or trips.

I love position.

What do you guys think of this play? Plays like this work a lot better for me on 1/2 NL then .50/1.00 I've noticed. The money factor changes things.

Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:15 pm


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