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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-04-29T09:53:30-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=7&t=2909&mode 2005-04-29T09:53:30-06:00 2005-04-29T09:53:30-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19873#p19873 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]>
I play pretty tight, so I am usually one of the shorter stacks when we get to the bubble. That is probably why I have too many 3rd place finishes relative to 1st. I do think, though, that this tight image works for me because I can steal blinds and bluff effectively at this stage because the table has seen me play only good hands. I have been working on my aggression earlier in a trny. I'm still picky but when I get a hand I push hard. At least for now it is working - yesterday I played 2 SnGs - 1st and 3rd and one small MTT for a 2nd place finish using this strategy. That is a very profitable day for me.

Statistics: Posted by Sunbob — Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:53 am


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2005-04-29T00:35:12-06:00 2005-04-29T00:35:12-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19823#p19823 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Here are my stats after 96x 5+0,50 SNG at Prima:


11314%
21617%
31314%
42021%
588%
61314%
788%
833%
911%
1011%





ROI 31,63%

ITM 43,75%

4th places 20,83%

$ win in total $167

$/Tournament$1,74

Hourly win rate$6,91

I am not so satisfied with the results, especially not with the 4th finishes.

I found sunbobs answer intersting from Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:30 am, and give my play as comparison in blue:

sunbob:
'My first goal when we are on the bubble is to get ITM. Depending on my chip stack I will adjust my play. If I am the big stack I will pound the short stacks and try to steal blinds and small pots. I try to avoid doubling them up, though. I want them gone - not getting stronger. If I am short I will steal when I can with an all-in play but will be very patient. If two others are in the pot I will let them go at it unless I have a very good hand. My goal here is to get ITM.'

Hm, with a big stack I want to become first and with a short stack I want to be ITM. Should I always try first to be ITM? I often push as short stack with let's say 8BB first in and a A5o with my whole stack. Is it maybe better to raise only 2BB , because it has a better risk/reward ? Often I get called and I be eliminated. Any suggestions?

Statistics: Posted by MHFlush — Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:35 am


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2005-04-28T17:24:30-06:00 2005-04-28T17:24:30-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19770#p19770 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by Sunbob — Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:24 pm


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2005-04-28T14:07:51-06:00 2005-04-28T14:07:51-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19718#p19718 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by bobby — Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:07 pm


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2005-04-28T11:30:50-06:00 2005-04-28T11:30:50-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19685#p19685 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by Sunbob — Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:30 am


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2005-04-28T00:15:57-06:00 2005-04-28T00:15:57-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19587#p19587 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by MHFlush — Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:15 am


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2005-04-27T23:36:11-06:00 2005-04-27T23:36:11-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19584#p19584 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:36 pm


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2005-04-27T21:06:18-06:00 2005-04-27T21:06:18-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19580#p19580 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by ToastedMoses — Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:06 pm


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2005-04-27T18:39:56-06:00 2005-04-27T18:39:56-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19563#p19563 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by Sunbob — Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:39 pm


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2005-04-27T08:51:28-06:00 2005-04-27T08:51:28-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19445#p19445 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by WildBillHickok — Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:51 am


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2005-04-27T07:11:17-06:00 2005-04-27T07:11:17-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19433#p19433 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by don300 — Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:11 am


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2005-04-27T06:40:33-06:00 2005-04-27T06:40:33-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19426#p19426 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by MHFlush — Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:40 am


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2005-04-27T06:15:49-06:00 2005-04-27T06:15:49-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19424#p19424 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]> Statistics: Posted by donquixote — Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:15 am


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2005-04-27T00:56:06-06:00 2005-04-27T00:56:06-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2909&p=19382#p19382 <![CDATA[4th place finishes <8 % ?]]>
I followed the statistics of Nashvegas excellent article 'SNG BR and stats'. The aims for SNGs should be according to him:

ROI > 35%, ITM > 45% and 4th place finishes <8%.

Well, I have a ROI of 45%, an ITM of 45%, but I finish in 25% of all time on place 4. But on the other hand I finish only in 5% on place 5. The ROI is very nice, but that high number/low number means something.

2 questions:

1.) What are your statistics on 4th place finishes?
2.) How to improve that number (playing more tight or aggressive or what)?

Regards, MH Flush

Statistics: Posted by MHFlush — Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:56 am


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