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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-04-28T23:49:35-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=7&t=2944&mode 2005-04-28T23:49:35-06:00 2005-04-28T23:49:35-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19820#p19820 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]>
The AQ and the AJ, I'll raise with 'em from CO or the button if everyone has folded ahead of me, which rarely happens in the first level or two. I'll go ahead and see a flop, though, if three or four people have limped ahead of me. In that situation, it's all about the pot odds.

Statistics: Posted by flafishy — Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:49 pm


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2005-04-28T20:39:55-06:00 2005-04-28T20:39:55-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19795#p19795 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]> Statistics: Posted by MVPSPORTS — Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:39 pm


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2005-04-28T15:30:10-06:00 2005-04-28T15:30:10-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19752#p19752 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]> B

Statistics: Posted by bobby — Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:30 pm


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2005-04-28T15:14:19-06:00 2005-04-28T15:14:19-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19746#p19746 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]>
With AQ more or less the same. If the table is tight and I think I can get it heads up I might raise a few limpers. At least that helps you to define their hands a bit better. But if there are a lot of limpers or if I don't think they'll fold I just limp and hope for a strong flop.

AJ and KQ I only limp in if my odds are really good and if I'm pretty sure there will be no raises behind me. On a tight table I might raise one limper if I'm on the button but I really don't like investing chips that early when you don't have a read on your opponents yet and when there is hardly any blind money to win.

Note that if you limp with AQ (or AJ) you have to be really careful if the flop comes something like AT7, because you might be up against top two pair. On such a flop I'll put in one potsized bet or one raise if someone makes a weak-looking bet, but not invest more. You are really looking for a Q-rag-rag flop, and even then you should be on guard.

Your hand illustrates the problem: in the early stages play can be very erratic. In this hand I would either limp in (and fold to the huge raise) or make a bigger raise myself (at least 4bb). With quite a few people left to act I would be inclined to just call, unless the table has been very passive.

Pieter

Statistics: Posted by Hofstra — Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:14 pm


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2005-04-28T11:50:20-06:00 2005-04-28T11:50:20-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19693#p19693 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]>
saw flop|saw showdown

MP2 (t335)
Hero (t625)
CO (t400)
Button (t620)
SB (t1875)
BB (t1785)
UTG (t605)
UTG+1 (t1225)
MP1 (t530)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Qc], [Ac].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero raises to t60, CO calls [t400] , 2 folds, BB calls t370, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Flop: (t505) [5c], [7d], [6h] (2 players)

Turn: (t505) [5h] (2 players)

River: (t505) [7c] (2 players)

Final Pot: t505

Results in white below:
BB has 8d 6d (two pair, sevens and sixes).
CO has Ah 9c (two pair, sevens and fives).
Outcome: BB wins t505.


Yes, maybe I should have raised to 3BB instead of just 2 but I wasn't thinking.

Statistics: Posted by oflaugherty — Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:50 am


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2005-04-28T11:05:05-06:00 2005-04-28T11:05:05-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2944&p=19675#p19675 <![CDATA[Those "other four" hands early on]]>
My strategy is to fold if there is a raise ahead of me, bet 4BB if I am first into the pot.

But... when there are limpers ahead of me... now what?

Just played a classic hand of this type. I will post it shortly...

Statistics: Posted by oflaugherty — Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:05 am


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