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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-06-16T06:27:08-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=7&t=4096&mode 2005-06-16T06:27:08-06:00 2005-06-16T06:27:08-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27625#p27625 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]> Statistics: Posted by Nashvegas — Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:27 am


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2005-06-16T06:16:08-06:00 2005-06-16T06:16:08-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27622#p27622 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]>
I don't see a problem with the T350 bet. You could have gone all in but with KK you are looking for callers. The flop scares me. With his call on your T350 I have to include AKs, AQs in the range of hands he might have (AJs not so much). I guess he was probing for stregnth with the T150 bet, that's all I can figure. You just called this smallish raise so I guess at this point he thinks AJ is good. Maybe at that point you reraise and put the pressure back on him and if he calls your reraise or puts you all in, you still have some chips to play with

Statistics: Posted by johnd13 — Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:16 am


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2005-06-16T04:37:12-06:00 2005-06-16T04:37:12-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27618#p27618 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]> He got lucky and hit his 3-outer ( everybody seems to hit this week ).
Don't know about the level at the $100 but I often went all-in at the first stage with KK and AA preflop on party. You want a call by AJ then and so they often did.

Ok the flop is terrible ofcourse. That 150 shows weakness to me. I would have him on JJ or something. I think most of the time I would go for the all in here.
By calling he now thinks your weak and his AJ is good.

In most of the times I would not have been around anymore for the turn to come it would have been settled before that.

He just got lucky calling 33% of his stack with AJ early. Make a note and move on.



tommyhawk

Statistics: Posted by tommyhawk — Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:37 am


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2005-06-15T21:50:59-06:00 2005-06-15T21:50:59-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27599#p27599 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]>
Anyway, that aside... I wouldn't raise QUITE so much PF... Maybe if someone had raised 80 and already had 2 callers, it would be fine... But, that's not the case... More likely, some bozo in EP limped w/ crapola, and 2 LP players are playing "position", or some other such crap... So, when the SB raises, you have to assume that all 3 aren't gonna stay in the hand... Ideally, you want to isolate w/ the SB and pray to GOD he doesn't have Aces... You gotta be careful that, if he has Jacks or Queens, though, you don't chase him... That was a VERY long-winded way of saying that I think you should've raised closer to 3x his bet, which would be 240.. That way, if an Ace flops, you can get away relatively cheaply...

On the flop... the dreaded Ace hits... he bets 150, which is a shitty little bet, but it's still enough that, if you call, you have 1/2 of your chips in the pot... This is, in my opinion, getting VERY close to an allin or fold situation... And, early in the tourney, where these idiots LOVE playing Ace/anything, I'd probably fold... Normally, I would like to raise here, but you're basically putting all your chips in w/almost anything that you do...

Lets look at it a little closer if you had raised a little less PF... He calls the 240... that leaves you w/ 760 each (I'm assuming you both have full stacks)... He bets 150 into a pot of ~500, which is still showing weakness, and you could minraise to 300, leaving you w/ 460 (which is still iffy...)... If he calls or raises, you're done... Then, you're down to about half your chips, and have an uphill climb... I don't especially like this play either, but the lower raise PF gives you a LITTLE more flexibility...

Honestly, I think folding to his bet on the flop is your best option... I can't see anyone calling that allin w/out an Ace, and I really think that the people at these SNGs would've checked to you as the PF raiser if he didn't have an ace... I think you're only shot to win this hand was to push the flop and pray...

Statistics: Posted by MVPSPORTS — Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:50 pm


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2005-06-15T15:47:22-06:00 2005-06-15T15:47:22-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27550#p27550 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]> I am surprised you pushed tho....

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2005-06-15T13:39:21-06:00 2005-06-15T13:39:21-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27529#p27529 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]> Statistics: Posted by JJSCOTT2 — Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:39 pm


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2005-06-15T10:47:51-06:00 2005-06-15T10:47:51-06:00 http://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4096&p=27504#p27504 <![CDATA[Bad play by me, I think...]]> Statistics: Posted by Nashvegas — Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:47 am


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