by MecosKing » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:49 am
I have played in many a game like that, and I think KJo's have more value in that type of game than they do in a tougher game. The domination problem is much worse in a tougher game because people are in there with better hands. For example, even if you are in LP with KJo in a tougher game, if there are a couple of limpers before you, you are often dominated by a KQ or an AJ or something like that, because tigher players often limp in EP with these hands.
The key about a hand like KJo in a game like that is to know when to get away from it. I mean, if you flop a K or a J as top pair, and have had 4 people chasing you the whole way, then all of a sudden someone raises you on the river when a straight card hits, or on ANY card for that matter (say they hit thier kicker or something) are you really any worse off with your KJ than you would be with AK? Not really!
Yes, KJo is definitely a trap hand. Its famous for that. KQ is a trap hand too, and JQ is probably the ultimate trap hand. BUT, when people are limping EP with stuff like J10o and 78s, then all of a sudden your KJo starts to look like a pretty nice hand.
I am a firm beleiver that when you are in Rome, you can do (somewhat) what the romans do. When people are playing bad cards, you can loosen up your requirements too. The trick is to try and make your requirements just a little higher than the other guys are. Hands that are marginal in tight games start becoming playable in loose games, as long as you dont start playing them too HARD, i.e. calling raises with them or somethign like that.
Okay, so maybe if the Romans are playing stuff like J6s UTG, then you cant be a true Roman. But, you can at least play a hand like a KJo for a profit, because your hand is very often the best, and when it holds up, you will win way more than anyone ever deserved to with a top pair hand.
KJs is obviously better than KJo, in ANY game, but i think in a loose game, especially if there isnt a hell of a lot of preflop raising (as there often is not) i say, play that KJo, especially in MP or LP.
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