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Postby Xaston » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:42 pm

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Postby Danhdan » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:01 pm

"Million dollar play, ten cent finish."

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I like this thread.

Postby Danhdan » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:18 am

I made another trip. 3/6 limit hold'em, 9 handed.

I had [Jd] [Qc] in cutoff.

UTG(Villian) calls, UTG+1calls, 3 folds, I call, button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop is [Qh] [Js] [Td] . Blinds check UTG bets, UTG +1 calls, I raise, blinds fold, UTG and UTG+1 call.

Turn is [3d] . Both check to me, I bet, UTG calls UTG+1 folds.

River is [Kh] . UTG checks. I bet, he calls.

UTG was pretty lucky that night but I noticed had some CS tendencies. He also looked like he didn't like the river card. It didn't look like an act, so I though he had a hand he might call with here and that his hand was made on the flop. Since the only hand to beat mine on the flop would be a set or made straight, I decided to bet here. I had seen this player bet out with the nuts many times into the aggressor, and I have also seen him check/call with many very good hands on the river that he should of check raised.

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Postby The Golden 1 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:24 am

[Apr 16 19:44:48] : Seat 5 : thegolden1 has 7s 8s
[Apr 16 19:44:50] : NeutronJack called $4
[Apr 16 19:45:00] : thegolden1 called $4 and raised $4
[Apr 16 19:45:04] : NeutronJack called $4
[Apr 16 19:45:05] : Dealing flop.
[Apr 16 19:45:05] : Board cards [9d 8h 3h]
[Apr 16 19:45:07] : NeutronJack checked.
[Apr 16 19:45:09] : thegolden1 bet $4
[Apr 16 19:45:12] : NeutronJack called $4
[Apr 16 19:45:12] : Dealing turn.
[Apr 16 19:45:12] : Board cards [9d 8h 3h 2c]
[Apr 16 19:45:15] : NeutronJack checked.
[Apr 16 19:45:16] : thegolden1 bet $8
[Apr 16 19:45:19] : NeutronJack called $8
[Apr 16 19:45:19] : Dealing river.
[Apr 16 19:45:19] : Board cards [9d 8h 3h 2c 6s]
[Apr 16 19:45:21] : NeutronJack checked.
[Apr 16 19:45:22] : thegolden1 bet $8
[Apr 16 19:45:24] : NeutronJack called $8
[Apr 16 19:45:25] : Showdown!
[Apr 16 19:45:25] : Seat 5 : thegolden1 has 7s 8s
[Apr 16 19:45:27] : Seat 5 : thegolden1 has 7s 8s
[Apr 16 19:45:27] : thegolden1 has Pair: 8s
[Apr 16 19:45:29] : thegolden1 wins $59 with Pair: 8s
[Apr 16 19:45:37] : Hand is over.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:23 am

wwcrd?

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Postby The Golden 1 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:06 am

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Postby Kuso » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:34 am

wwcrd?

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Postby JJSCOTT2 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:24 pm

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $11.50
UTG+1: $19.50
UTG+2: $26.50
MP1: $19
MP2: $12.50
MP3: $39
CO: $22.75
JJSCOTT2: $50.50
SB: $15
BB: $38.75

Pre-flop: (10 players) JJSCOTT2 is Button with [Ah] [Js]
3 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, JJSCOTT2 raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: [7h] [9d] [8d] (5.5SB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, JJSCOTT2 bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: [Qc] (3.75BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, JJSCOTT2 bets, MP1 calls.

River: [2s] (5.75BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, JJSCOTT2 bets, MP1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.75BB
MP1 mucks Jc Ks
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Postby MecosKing » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:35 am

damn- just noticed this. Pretty quality value town JJ! That is, IF you were actually bettin for value here, and not betting thinking O GOD PLEASE MUCK YOUR FUCK-ING 66 or T7soooted, or something like that.

Here is a similar hand

Dealt to Stuck4Lyfe [9s] [Ac]
FallenAngle folds.
karbiz folds.
nutzShown_4U raises [$20].
Stuck4Lyfe raises [$25].
dino119111 has left the table.
Nuker folds.
nutzShown_4U calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [Qs] [2s] [Js]
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$10].
VPIP23PFR17 has joined the table.
nutzShown_4U calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [Th]
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$20].
nutzShown_4U calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [5h]
Stuck4Lyfe bets [$20].
nutzShown_4U calls [$20].
Stuck4Lyfe shows [9s] [Ac] high card ace.
nutzShown_4U doesn't show [8c] [Kd] high card king.
Stuck4Lyfe wins $168 from the main pot with high card ace.

Now this hand, i wasnt exactly bettin for value- it was more of a two way bet, like it is possible i might get called by a worse hand, and its also possible i could make a mizor muck a better hand.

However ii had some history with this particular mizor-- there was one marathon session where i logged about 8 billion hands with him- hes a somewhat solid player, and probably a winner overall, but he does some strange ass shit once innawhile...this one hand came up in a blind battle where i had either TP or midpair, and he called my river bet with 8high on like a 9T6J2 board, .and i asked him 'what the hell were you beating?' and he said 'seven high of course'...so i figured if he had something like [As] [6d] or even the [Ks], there was a decent chance he'd call me...but man, he called with absolute air. Pretty tite.
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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neelguru: I gave up politics when I was 6
neelguru: Im dedicating the rest of my life to getting unstuck
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Postby MecosKing » Thu May 04, 2006 1:42 pm

Well, obviously i dont post much here because im too much of a donk to take someone to value town, but this mizor took this other mizor on a pretty nice, all expenses paid trip to the valuetown beach resort.

Dealt to Stuck4Lyfe [ Kd 6s ]
RounderBaby2 raises [$30].
>You have options at Flying Pig Table!.
Scipio08 folds.
firedrift calls [$30].
tybalt203 folds.
Gamblor_29 folds.
Stuck4Lyfe folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 3c, 7s ]
RounderBaby2 bets [$15].
firedrift calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
RounderBaby2 bets [$30].
firedrift calls [$30].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
RounderBaby2 checks.
firedrift bets [$30].
RounderBaby2 calls [$30].
firedrift shows [ Tc, Ad ] a pair of sevens.
RounderBaby2 doesn't show [ Ks, Ts ] a pair of sevens.
firedrift wins $232 from the main pot with a pair of sevens with ace kicker.

Rounderbaby is a mizors mizor, and this was a great bet.
NorthViewBTP: poor old ED
NorthViewBTP: from gun totin beer swiller
NorthViewBTP: to limp wristed defender of fagdom
NorthViewBTP: ALL THINGS TO ALL MEN
NorthViewBTP: IS THE SAME AS NO THINGS TO ANY MAN
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Mekos King: NV ignoring
Jimmy BTP: he's ignoring me too
Jimmy BTP: obv fell asleep in his colostomy bag
Jimmy BTP: running shite everywhere
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Postby Kuso » Thu May 04, 2006 1:50 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Danhdan » Fri May 19, 2006 2:53 am

Not the best value trip, but happy about it...plus I love this thread.

My read on villian is CS.

3/6 9-handed

Hero is SB, Villian is UTG+1.
Hero has [As] [Ad]

UTG calls, Villian calls, fold, MP raises, fold, fold, fold, Hero 3-bet, BB calls, UTG calls, Villian calls, MP calls.

Flop is [Td] [7h] [7s].

I bet, BB folds, UTG folds, Villian calls, MP calls.

Turn is [8d] .

I bet, Villian calls, MP pauses a moment and tosses.

River is [9c] .

I bet, Villian calls.

Villian had [Qc] [Ts].

Live play is the best. It was pretty obvious to me he didn't feel one way or another about the river, and called my bet without hesitation. I just wish the rake around here wasn't so damn large.
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Postby Xaston » Fri May 19, 2006 5:38 pm

Now I know the spirit of Value Town is in getting value out of very marginal hands, and this hand I flopped the nuts so thats not exactly the same. But the fact that I was playing HU with a minor poker celebrity, and the hand she put in so many damn bets against me with, made it seem like a kinda tite trip to valuetown.



Stage #364120174: Holdem Normal $25/$50 - 2006-05-19 19:35:26 (ET)
Table: CONIFER ST. (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - XASTON ($2858.10 in chips)
Seat 9 - JENN1C1DE ($1993 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERBROTHER ($2765 in chips)
JENN1C1DE - Posts small blind $15
XASTON - Posts big blind $25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to XASTON [10d Qh]
JENN1C1DE - Raises $35 to $50
XASTON - Raises $50 to $75
JENN1C1DE - Raises $50 to $100
XASTON - Calls $25
*** FLOP *** [8c 9s Jd]
JENN1C1DE - Bets $25
XASTON - Raises $50 to $50
JENN1C1DE - Raises $50 to $75
XASTON - Raises $50 to $100
JENN1C1DE - Calls $25
*** TURN *** [8c 9s Jd] [5c]
JENN1C1DE - Bets $50
XASTON - Raises $100 to $100
JENN1C1DE - Calls $50
*** RIVER *** [8c 9s Jd 5c] [2c]
JENN1C1DE - Bets $50
XASTON - Raises $100 to $100
JENN1C1DE - Calls $50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
XASTON - Shows [10d Qh] (Straight, eight to queen)
JENN1C1DE - Mucks
XASTON Collects $799 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($800) | Rake ($1)
Board [8c 9s Jd 5c 2c]
Seat 6: XASTON (dealer) (big blind) won Total ($799) HI:($799) with Straight, eight to queen [10d Qh - P:Qh,B:Jd,P:10d,B:9s,B:8c]
Seat 9: JENN1C1DE (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [10h 9d]
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Postby woody » Sat May 20, 2006 1:26 am

This hand is my trip to value town.

Pokerstars, 3/6 Limit Hold'em, 7 handed.
Hero has [As][Ks] in SB

Preflop: EP raises to $6, 4 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: [Qh][7s][3h] Pot=$15. Hero checks, EP bets $3, Hero calls.

Turn: [Qh][7s][3h][2s] Pot=$20. Hero checks, EP bets $6, Hero raises to $12, EP calls.

River: [Qh][7s][3h][2s][5c] Pot=$44. Hero bets $6, EP calls $6.

Showdown: Heros shows A high, EP mucks hand.
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