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Why we dont call raises with QK

Postby MecosKing » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:16 pm

Ya know, for all the suspect plays i make, like semi bluffing with gutshots/undercards and raising J5s, if anyone is wondering how it is i actually win, it is because first off, i am a luck sackin, card rackin, chip stackin sumbitch.

But beyond that, i do NOT flat call raises with KQ. But i gotta say, i love guys that do!

Dealt to AKsoGay [Ah] [Kc]
MMC2004 has joined the table.
Ak007 folds.
AKsoGay raises [$40].
wendysrob calls [$40].
sandykw folds.
AJAKS calls [$40].
ucotme folds.
Pettinho calls [$20].
** Dealing Flop ** [4c] [Kh] [3c]
Pettinho checks.
AKsoGay bets [$20].
>You have options at Table 52004 Table!.
wendysrob folds.
AJAKS raises [$40].
Pettinho folds.
AKsoGay raises [$40].
AJAKS raises [$40].
china_kid_3 has joined the table.
AKsoGay calls [$20].
** Dealing Turn ** [Ts]
AKsoGay bets [$40].
AJAKS calls [$40].
** Dealing River ** [8d]
AKsoGay bets [$40].
AJAKS calls [$40].
AKsoGay shows [Ah] [Kc] a pair of kings.
AJAKS doesn't show [Qc] [Ks] a pair of kings.
AKsoGay wins $507 from the main pot with a pair of kings with ace kicker.

Does anyone play this any different? I was thinking of going for the turn CR but too often mizors are on flush draws in this situation- at least they have been lately. I pretty much put him on a KQ / KJ since he cold called the PF raise... Probly couldve made some more $ off his ass. Ah well
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Postby piersmajestyk » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:14 pm

Lots of times I just call these raises on the flop when I have a hand like yours if there are no likely draws out but with the two flush I would have popped it again on the flop but when you get 4 bet I think I would have went for the CR on the turn barring a club but leading again is not a bad play at all. It may be just me but when someone 4 bets me instead of calling my 3 bet and going for the raise on the turn it signals a good but not powerful hand and many times they will just check the turn after you call the cap fearing they may be in trouble.

KQ is just a nightmare hand to be calling a raise with.
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Postby Tiburon » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:04 am

Agreed mecos & piers...

You can't call a raise with KQ, even suited. Think. You're dominated by almost every possible raising hand, and at best, you're probably a coin flip.

You cold call a raise with KQs (best case scenario). An ace flops, and a player leads into you--you're beat. None of your suit flops--you're looking at runner-runner to have a realistically positive expectation.

Offsuit? No chance--you need too much help to call with it, and you need to hit the flop big, and when you do, it's next to impossible to disguise...
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