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Postby rdale » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:11 am

I don't have a problem with how you played the 34d hand, raising it PF is fine and limping it is fine. You probably got more by limping. You can alternate between limping and raising these type hands, it isn't like you are giving up value by not raising it like QQ.
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Postby Twelver » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:12 am

Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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Postby SebQtaneus » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:38 am

This was a lotta damned hands for 80% of a stack. But I guess it's better than losing.

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This was not fun. Somehow, I don't think lady luck was in my corner tonight.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($7.30)
UTG 1 ($27.20)
CO ($37.20)
Hero ($23.25)
SB ($36.00)
BB ($26.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BTN [Ts][Th]
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.35, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.1, CO folds

Flop: [Jh][6d][Tc] ($3.3, 2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $3.5, UTG calls $2.5

Turn: [7s] ($10.3, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $4.5, UTG calls $2.2

River: [Qs] ($17.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15.20
UTG shows: [Kc][As]
Hero shows: [Ts][Th]

UTG wins $14.45 ( won $7.15 )
Hero wins $2.05 ( lost -$7.3 )
CO lost -$0.25
_________________________________________________________________

Neither was this. How bout that preflop play by the villain, woot. Ghey.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($10.10)
UTG 1 ($6.45)
CO ($28.25)
BTN ($26.65)
Hero ($26.50)
BB ($26.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB [Jd][Ac]
1 fold, UTG 1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG 1 calls $0.75

Flop: [Jc][6h][5s] ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, UTG 1 calls $1.75

Turn: [3s] ($5.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, UTG 1 goes all-in $3.7, Hero calls $0.45

River: [Qs] ($13.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $13.15
UTG 1 shows: [7c][4h]
Hero shows: [Jd][Ac]

UTG 1 wins $12.5 ( won $6.05 )
Hero lost -$6.45
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Mekos King: as if we didnt know that already
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:41 am

I need a better journal title. Ideas?
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Postby low dough » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:17 pm

How about :
Saving for studded tires for my bike

or

Killing time before I go riding again.

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Postby SebQtaneus » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:46 am

With the way he played it, what does villain usually have here?

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($52.30)
Hero ($28.40)
BTN ($11.05)
SB ($11.90)
BB ($11.30)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is CO [Jd][Jh]
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: [8s][6d][4d] ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BTN calls $1.5

Turn: [9s] ($5.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, BTN calls $3.25

River: [9c] ($11.55, 2 players)
Hero bets $8.25, BTN calls $5.45
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:04 am

At least I knew when it was time to take the money and run. This session started out with a nice flush over flush hand to put me in a hole, followed awhile later by another flush over flush to put me even deeper in the hole. And the hand in the post above didn't help either as villain had T9o. But I persevered and with diligence, clawed myself halfway back. Then when I hit the hand below the graph, I quickly shut it down for the night 1/2 a buyin up.
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2 knockouts in one sweet punch!

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($8.20)
UTG 1 ($26.75)
CO ($32.45)
BTN ($24.65)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($15.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB [4h][4c]
2 folds, CO raises to $0.5, BTN calls $0.5, Hero calls $0.4, BB raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: [4s][Th][5d] ($3, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2, BB calls $2, CO folds

Turn: [Ac] ($9, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $12.5, BB calls $12.5, BTN goes all-in $21.9, Hero goes all-in $22, BB calls $0.35, BTN says "nh"

River: [6d] ($65.75, 3 players)

Final Pot: $65.65
Hero shows: [4h][4c]
BB shows: [6s][As]
BTN shows: [Ad][Ts]

Hero wins $62.75 ( won $38 )
BB lost -$15.60
CO lost -$0.75
BTN lost -$24.65
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:03 pm

WOOT!!! Finally got above where I was at the end of October when my bad run started!!! Plus another $210 in RB so far that the graph doesnt show and this NL25 6max project is looking good again after a little over 3 months!!!
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Folding sets really blows. I maybe could have made a CB on the flop, but this dude is a total calling station and loves to play shitty cards so I knew there was a decent chance I was already beat with little chance of getting him to fold without pushing allin which I was not prepared to do on the flop. Ugh. On the bright side, at least the pot wasn't too huge.
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($33.20)
CO ($21.30)
Hero ($43.15)
SB ($25.10)
BB ($25.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BTN [5d][5c]
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.6

Flop: [6s][9h][Ts] ($1.8, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: [5s] ($1.8, 2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

River: [8s] ($7.8, 2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero folds

Final Pot: $7.80

BB wins $12.45 ( won $3.6 )
Hero lost -$3.85
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Mekos King: as if we didnt know that already
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Postby SebQtaneus » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:23 pm

Hey Northy,

I saw you told MVP to post his statistics tab. Here's mine. Please interpret it for me. I ask because his EV graph looks similar to mine (albeit many less hands). You and Twelver have both told me the same things you told him so I thought you might be kind enough to let me know what it is I'm looking at.

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Postby Twelver » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:37 pm

see how the green line is so far below the blue line? and see how it says you are -790 on hands that don't go to showdown? they are basically the same thing..one is graph form one in stat form
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Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

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Postby SebQtaneus » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:47 pm

OK, I know we talked about this a bit on Skype Twelver. But I think a lot of us who are in this particular situation could use a LOT of help with figuring it out. I used to think It was probably just me but after seeing someone else with a very similar graph I realized that there are probably many more as well.
"Losing a shit ton of money on hands that don't go to SD" as you so eloquently put it to me isn't something that just screams solution to me. I think a lot of us need a better definition. And following that, a good game plan on how to fix it.
Now having said that, I have tried to incorporate what you told me about playing my draws more aggro. But I have a feeling there is a lot more involved in getting that green line up more towards the red one.
BTW, when is our next Skype session?
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Postby SebQtaneus » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:50 pm

Also, how come in the first stat of that stats tab it says my winnings are $415.65 but my BB's are only twice that? I play NL25 and the BB's should therefore be 4x right?
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Postby SebQtaneus » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:59 pm

Last night instead of playing poker, I fiddled around a bit with modifying the Full Tilt tables I play. This is what I settled on. Seems a lot easier on the eyes to me. Especially multitabling.
The changes I made were:
Black table
Black background
Waffle cards (I used to love using these on Party & Empire)
Coins for chips
Red dealer button
There's all kinds of mods you can do, but I like it this way and didn't want to fuck with it too much.
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Postby NorthView » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:18 am

Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.

Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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Postby SebQtaneus » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:13 am

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