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Postby GooperMC » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:32 pm

Played a very short session (30 mins). No real hands to report, just a couple of suckouts. I went to showdown 3 times and got sucked out each time :(

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Are those lines suppose to diverge?

Meh. Down 1/2 a buy with a W$SD of 0.
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Postby GooperMC » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:57 pm

A up and down session. I found a couple of good 2/4 games and decided to play. However, one of them was 6 handed Tribeca game against 5 LAGs. I need to figure out how to beat this type of game because looking back at my results for 1/2 I am running 5PTBB/100 at FT, 3PTBB/100 at Stars, and -3PTBB/100 at Tribeca. It seems like these games should be an absolute gold mine, but 6 handed the blinds come around really fast and because I am playing against 5 LAGs I have very little fold equity. From now on I am going to avoid the 2/4 SHed game until I can demonstrate that I can beat the 1/2 6 handed games. I know that I can beat most people HU, 3 way or 4 way. I know that I can beat most FR games, but this 6 handed middle ground is giving me fits.

Overall the plunge into 2/4 was profitable to the tune of 150ish. The bet sizes scared me a little but not as much as when I moved up to 1/2. I don't think this is an official move up, but I am going to keep my eyes open for other good 2/4 games.

Best hand
Whitewater Falls 10475021-58331 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit $2/$4
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Hand Start.
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has $425.50
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 2 : spanner1 has $50.20
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 3 : talmid has $84.43
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 4 : Mike31 has $383.80
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 5 : Assa has $188.92
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : Seat 6 : otrill has $878.09
[Dec 7 23:24:51] : spanner1 is the dealer.
[Dec 7 23:24:52] : talmid posted small blind.
[Dec 7 23:24:54] : Mike31 posted big blind.
[Dec 7 23:24:54] : Game [58331] started with 6 players.
[Dec 7 23:24:54] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 7 23:24:54] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 8h 2c As Ks
[Dec 7 23:24:56] : Assa folded.
[Dec 7 23:24:59] : otrill called $4
[Dec 7 23:25:03] : EatTheCat called $4 and raised $14
[Dec 7 23:25:06] : spanner1 called $18 and raised $32.20 and is All-in
[Dec 7 23:25:17] : talmid folded.
[Dec 7 23:25:18] : Mike31 folded.
[Dec 7 23:25:26] : otrill called $46.20
[Dec 7 23:25:29] : EatTheCat called $32.20
[Dec 7 23:25:30] : Dealing flop.
[Dec 7 23:25:30] : Board cards [Kd 2h 7h]
[Dec 7 23:25:38] : otrill checked.
[Dec 7 23:25:49] : EatTheCat bet $100
[Dec 7 23:25:52] : otrill called $100
[Dec 7 23:25:52] : Dealing turn.
[Dec 7 23:25:52] : Board cards [Kd 2h 7h Td]
[Dec 7 23:26:00] : otrill bet $356.60
[Dec 7 23:26:11] : EatTheCat folded.
[Dec 7 23:26:11] : Showdown!
[Dec 7 23:26:13] : Seat 2 : spanner1 has 2d Th 8s Ac
[Dec 7 23:26:14] : Seat 6 : otrill has Jh Ts Jd Kc
[Dec 7 23:26:18] : Seat 6 : otrill has Jh Ts Jd Kc
[Dec 7 23:26:18] : otrill has high hand : Two Pair: Kings and 10s
[Dec 7 23:26:18] : otrill wins $198.31 with high hand : Two Pair: Kings and 10s
[Dec 7 23:26:19] : Seat 2 : spanner1 has 2d Th 8s Ac
[Dec 7 23:26:19] : spanner1 has Two Pair: 10s and 8s
[Dec 7 23:26:19] : Seat 6 : otrill has Jh Ts Jd Kc
[Dec 7 23:26:19] : otrill has high hand : Two Pair: Kings and 10s
[Dec 7 23:26:19] : otrill wins $155.29 with high hand : Two Pair: Kings and 10s
[Dec 7 23:26:28] : Hand is over.

I got money in when I was ahead and folded when I got sucked out. Again this fold should be easy but this is the type of hand that I have spewed chips in the past.

Worst Hand
Whitewater Falls 10475021-58313 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit $2/$4
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Hand Start.
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has $294
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 2 : spanner1 has $142.87
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 3 : tyson21 has $132.50
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 4 : Mike31 has $169.62
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 5 : Assa has $196
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : Seat 6 : otrill has $904.84
[Dec 7 23:09:43] : EatTheCat is the dealer.
[Dec 7 23:09:44] : spanner1 posted small blind.
[Dec 7 23:09:44] : tyson21 posted big blind.
[Dec 7 23:09:44] : Game [58313] started with 6 players.
[Dec 7 23:09:44] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 7 23:09:44] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 5d 2d 2s Ac
[Dec 7 23:09:47] : Mike31 called $4 and raised $10
[Dec 7 23:09:49] : Assa folded.
[Dec 7 23:09:51] : otrill folded.
[Dec 7 23:09:53] : EatTheCat called $14
[Dec 7 23:09:53] : spanner1 folded.
[Dec 7 23:09:54] : tyson21 folded.
[Dec 7 23:09:54] : Dealing flop.
[Dec 7 23:09:54] : Board cards [Js 4s 7d]
[Dec 7 23:09:57] : Mike31 bet $34
[Dec 7 23:10:03] : EatTheCat called $34
[Dec 7 23:10:03] : Dealing turn.
[Dec 7 23:10:03] : Board cards [Js 4s 7d 5s]
[Dec 7 23:10:05] : Mike31 bet $102
[Dec 7 23:10:11] : EatTheCat called $102 and raised $102
[Dec 7 23:10:13] : Mike31 called $19.62 and is All-in
[Dec 7 23:10:13] : Showdown!
[Dec 7 23:10:13] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 5d 2d 2s Ac
[Dec 7 23:10:15] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 5d 2d 2s Ac
[Dec 7 23:10:15] : Seat 4 : Mike31 has Ah Ts 2h Ad
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 5d 2d 2s Ac
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : EatTheCat has high hand : Two Pair: 5s and 4s
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : EatTheCat has low hand : 7542A
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Seat 4 : Mike31 has Ah Ts 2h Ad
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Mike31 has high hand : Two Pair: Aces and 4s
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Mike31 has low hand : 7542A
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : EatTheCat ties $85.56 with low hand : 7542A
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Mike31 ties $85.56 with low hand : 7542A
[Dec 7 23:10:20] : Mike31 wins $171.12 with high hand : Two Pair: Aces and 4s
[Dec 7 23:10:30] : Hand is over.

I think the flop call is loose esp from a pre-flop raiser. I should have either raised if I thought I had fold equity or folded if I didn't.

Bonii:
FTP ($600): 217 / 600
BetUS ($300): 2697/ 37500
Trident ($200): 55 / 2000
Stars (120): 0 / 1200 Apparently stars can't take a suggestion. Maybe I wasn't clear last time. I WANT A STARS BONUS. That should clear everything up.
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Postby GooperMC » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:24 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby GooperMC » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:20 am

It always seems like I go on a bad run whenever I move up. I know that most of it is in my head (a 1.5 stack losing session isn't that bad it just seems that way because the stakes are elevated). But why can't I open with a 1.5 stack winning session?

My month so far. I am reminded of Rhound old sig about comos kicking me in the nuts.
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I am going climbing right now. I have a few hands to post, which I will do when I get back and start up my next session.
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Postby GooperMC » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:33 am

And here is the total W/L for so far this month:

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What a rollar coaster.
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Postby GooperMC » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:30 pm

<begin whining>
Please jump to the end winning if you want any meaningful poker content because what is going to follow is going to be nonsensical whining.

Sometimes I really don't like this game. I got all in pre river 12 times this session, and every single time I had odds. Yet I earned greater then my EV only 4 times.

Here is the hit list:
79% EV: Scoop
83% EV: Scoop
95% EV: Scoop
61% EV: ½
44% EV 3 way : ½,
31% EV 3 way: ¼
34% EV 3 way main pot, 55% EV side pot: ¼ in both
35% EV calling all in: 0
43% calling a bet: ¼
40% in a 3 way pot: 0
33% in main pot, 65% in site pot: ¼ in both
88% EV: 0

Apparently I need 80+ equity to win a god damn hand.

At one point this session I was up $250 and I ended up +$30. Grumble, Grumble, Grumble. I really wish Phil’s tool showed Tribecca so that I could graph the massacre that was the last ½ of the session. I actually said that I would stop playing if I dropped below $75. I was up $160 when the second to last hand listed above happened, to bring me down to up $100. I decided that I was done for the day so I unchecked post blinds on all my tables, when I picked up AA3. My though oh boy here we go again (a sure sign it was time to stop). I raise, the worst player ever calls. Flop is 26J, I pot he calls. Turn Q, I put him all in he calls and shows KK58 and spiked a king. Perfect end to a perfect session.

Here are some gems that I saw today:

La Paz Falls 10474643-88502 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit $1/$2
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Hand Start.
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 1 : sshin has $77.75
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 2 : XxdawnxX has $79
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 3 : DAKOTA-dog has $19.50
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 4 : EatTheCat has $207.75
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 5 : hitternow has $82.17
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : Seat 6 : bluechip has $200
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : sshin is the dealer.
[Dec 9 22:07:43] : XxdawnxX posted small blind.
[Dec 9 22:07:44] : DAKOTA-dog posted big blind.
[Dec 9 22:07:47] : bluechip posted big blind.
[Dec 9 22:07:47] : Game [88502] started with 6 players.
[Dec 9 22:07:47] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 9 22:07:47] : Seat 4 : EatTheCat has 8c 8h 4s 7d
[Dec 9 22:07:50] : EatTheCat folded.
[Dec 9 22:07:51] : hitternow called $2
[Dec 9 22:07:53] : bluechip checked.
[Dec 9 22:07:56] : sshin called $2 and raised $9
[Dec 9 22:07:58] : XxdawnxX called $10 and raised $28
[Dec 9 22:08:02] : DAKOTA-dog folded.
[Dec 9 22:08:39] : hitternow called $37 and raised $28
[Dec 9 22:08:40] : bluechip folded.
[Dec 9 22:08:44] : sshin called $56
[Dec 9 22:08:46] : XxdawnxX called $28 and raised $12 and is All-in
[Dec 9 22:08:46] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Dec 9 22:08:48] : hitternow called $12
[Dec 9 22:08:49] : sshin called $10.75 and is All-in
[Dec 9 22:08:49] : Showdown!
[Dec 9 22:08:51] : Seat 1 : sshin has 4d 6h 2s Ah
[Dec 9 22:08:51] : Seat 2 : XxdawnxX has Ad Tc Jd As
[Dec 9 22:08:51] : Seat 5 : hitternow has 7c Ac Js 4c
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : Seat 2 : XxdawnxX has Ad Tc Jd As
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : XxdawnxX has high hand : Two Pair: Aces and Kings
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : Seat 5 : hitternow has 7c Ac Js 4c
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : hitternow has Pair: Kings
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : XxdawnxX wins $2.47 with high hand : Two Pair: Aces and Kings
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : Seat 2 : XxdawnxX has Ad Tc Jd As
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : XxdawnxX has high hand : Two Pair: Aces and Kings
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : Seat 5 : hitternow has 7c Ac Js 4c
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : hitternow has Pair: Kings
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : Seat 1 : sshin has 4d 6h 2s Ah
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : sshin has Two Pair: Kings and 2s
[Dec 9 22:09:00] : XxdawnxX wins $234.28 with high hand : Two Pair: Aces and Kings
[Dec 9 22:08:47] : Hand is over.

I just love the 3 bet with A4.

Ribbon Falls 10474854-67327 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit $2/$4
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Hand Start.
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has $302.25
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 2 : LucaBrasi has $103.25
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 3 : marnik111 has $337.25
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 4 : Rookiegambl has $939.64
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 5 : Dont7ry has $421.25
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 6 : otrill has $272.50
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 7 : berdyfish has $319.75
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 8 : tyson21 has $42.75
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : Seat 9 : joeypresley has $629.37
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : berdyfish is the dealer.
[Dec 8 21:56:48] : tyson21 posted small blind.
[Dec 8 21:56:49] : joeypresley posted big blind.
[Dec 8 21:56:49] : Game [67327] started with 9 players.
[Dec 8 21:56:49] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 8 21:56:49] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has 7d 5c 4h 4c
[Dec 8 21:56:51] : EatTheCat folded.
[Dec 8 21:56:55] : LucaBrasi called $4
[Dec 8 21:56:56] : marnik111 folded.
[Dec 8 21:56:57] : Rookiegambl folded.
[Dec 8 21:57:00] : Dont7ry called $4 and raised $6
[Dec 8 21:57:00] : otrill folded.
[Dec 8 21:57:02] : berdyfish folded.
[Dec 8 21:57:06] : tyson21 called $8
[Dec 8 21:57:12] : joeypresley called $6
[Dec 8 21:57:12] : LucaBrasi called $6
[Dec 8 21:57:13] : Dealing flop.
[Dec 8 21:57:13] : Board cards [Qh Ac 6h]
[Dec 8 21:57:20] : tyson21 checked.
[Dec 8 21:57:22] : joeypresley checked.
[Dec 8 21:57:22] : LucaBrasi checked.
[Dec 8 21:57:28] : Dont7ry bet $30
[Dec 8 21:57:38] : tyson21 folded.
[Dec 8 21:57:41] : joeypresley called $30
[Dec 8 21:57:41] : LucaBrasi folded.
[Dec 8 21:57:42] : Dealing turn.
[Dec 8 21:57:42] : Board cards [Qh Ac 6h Jh]
[Dec 8 21:57:44] : joeypresley checked.
[Dec 8 21:57:47] : Dont7ry bet $100
[Dec 8 21:58:02] : joeypresley has 10 seconds to respond.
[Dec 8 21:58:10] : joeypresley called $100
[Dec 8 21:58:11] : Dealing river.
[Dec 8 21:58:11] : Board cards [Qh Ac 6h Jh Tc]
[Dec 8 21:58:14] : joeypresley checked.
[Dec 8 21:58:17] : Dont7ry checked.
[Dec 8 21:58:17] : Showdown!
[Dec 8 21:58:19] : Seat 9 : joeypresley has Kd 7h 9d 9h
[Dec 8 21:58:19] : joeypresley has high hand : Flush QJ976
[Dec 8 21:58:19] : joeypresley wins $297 with high hand : Flush QJ976
[Dec 8 21:58:28] : Hand is over.

9 high flush OOP on low draw board in the nuts right? In fact I don’t know why he didn’t CRAI on the turn.

Ribbon Falls 10474854-67352 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit $2/$4
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Hand Start.
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has $336
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 2 : LucaBrasi has $168.25
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 3 : bklynkd has $150
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 4 : bluechip has $180.06
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 5 : Dont7ry has $321.50
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 6 : otrill has $589
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : Seat 8 : tyson21 has $328.32
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : LucaBrasi is the dealer.
[Dec 8 22:25:10] : bklynkd posted small blind.
[Dec 8 22:25:11] : bluechip posted big blind.
[Dec 8 22:25:11] : Game [67352] started with 7 players.
[Dec 8 22:25:11] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Dec 8 22:25:11] : Seat 1 : EatTheCat has Jc 9d 4c Kh
[Dec 8 22:25:14] : Dont7ry folded.
[Dec 8 22:25:18] : otrill folded.
[Dec 8 22:25:20] : tyson21 called $4
[Dec 8 22:25:21] : EatTheCat folded.
[Dec 8 22:25:21] : LucaBrasi called $4
[Dec 8 22:25:21] : bklynkd called $2
[Dec 8 22:25:23] : bluechip checked.
[Dec 8 22:25:24] : Dealing flop.
[Dec 8 22:25:24] : Board cards [5h 4d Js]
[Dec 8 22:25:30] : bklynkd bet $8
[Dec 8 22:25:35] : bluechip folded.
[Dec 8 22:25:42] : tyson21 called $8
[Dec 8 22:25:44] : LucaBrasi called $8
[Dec 8 22:25:44] : Dealing turn.
[Dec 8 22:25:44] : Board cards [5h 4d Js 3c]
[Dec 8 22:25:51] : bklynkd bet $16
[Dec 8 22:25:54] : tyson21 called $16
[Dec 8 22:25:55] : LucaBrasi called $16
[Dec 8 22:25:56] : Dealing river.
[Dec 8 22:25:56] : Board cards [5h 4d Js 3c Ah]
[Dec 8 22:26:04] : bklynkd bet $88
[Dec 8 22:26:18] : tyson21 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Dec 8 22:26:19] : tyson21 called $88
[Dec 8 22:26:23] : LucaBrasi called $88 and raised $52.25 and is All-in
[Dec 8 22:26:23] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Dec 8 22:26:24] : bklynkd called $34 and is All-in
[Dec 8 22:26:29] : tyson21 called $52.25
[Dec 8 22:26:29] : Showdown!
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : Seat 2 : LucaBrasi has 6d 7h 8h Ad
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : LucaBrasi has high hand : Straight 76543
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : LucaBrasi has low hand : 6543A
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : Seat 8 : tyson21 has 9s 2h Ks 4h
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : tyson21 has low hand : 5432A
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : tyson21 wins $18.14 with low hand : 5432A
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : LucaBrasi wins $18.14 with high hand : Straight 76543
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : Seat 2 : LucaBrasi has 6d 7h 8h Ad
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : LucaBrasi has high hand : Straight 76543
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : Seat 3 : bklynkd has 6h 2c Qc Qh
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : bklynkd has Straight 65432
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : Seat 8 : tyson21 has 9s 2h Ks 4h
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : tyson21 has low hand : 5432A
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : tyson21 wins $225.61 with low hand : 5432A
[Dec 8 22:26:30] : LucaBrasi wins $225.61 with high hand : Straight 76543
[Dec 8 22:26:45] : Hand is over.

With this hand I can see why I am running at -4PTBB/100 over 1K hands at 1/2 Tribeca and -11PTBB/100 over 400 hands at 2/4 Tribeca.
</end whining>

I am starting to wonder if I am good enough to beat this game. It is funny because I do this every time I am on a bad run, then I feel totally invincible when I am running good. Historically my winnings have always had a steady up climb then every 2-3 months I have a nasty drop, then it picks up again. This has happened 6 times where the drops are getting bigger since I am moving up, yet every time I start to question my self.

For some reasons getting it in with odds every time isn’t satisfying. Intellectually I can say that I have been playing well and getting it in good but that isn’t totally convincing. The next time I sit down at a table after a big loss (or a almost big win like today) and my first thought is "will it happen again?" My second though is always looking around the table at the regulars like Pred, Phil (when I could play Party), and Dave, and wonder if I am good enough to play with these people.

Like I said in a previous post I am sure that in some upcoming session I will have a 3 buy in win, and all these feelings will drift away until I start running bad again. You would think I would learn but apparently not.

Bonii:
FTP ($600): 233 / 600
BetUS ($300): 5903 / 37500
Trident ($200): 55 / 2000
Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:22 am

The Monkman J[c]

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A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby GooperMC » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:54 am

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby GooperMC » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:42 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Kuso » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:49 pm

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby GooperMC » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:15 am

Thanks Kuso.

Haven't heard back from the agent yet. That can't be a good sign. :(
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Postby Rhound50 » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:56 pm

"Its a pink handbag not backpack damn it." Godlikeroy

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Postby GooperMC » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:04 pm

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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