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Postby bdon22 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:12 am

That blows my mind at how you can play with such a high VP$IP and be profitable. How do you earn your money? Seriously. I'm really interested in hearing about styles that differ from my own tight 19/15 game.
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Postby rickjr82 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:49 am

I play a ton of hands(40%) from the button which makes up most of my vpip(CO is at 30%).

I just play a very heaviy position game and I think that most players at these levels can be exploited and controlled with good betting.

I do have big inter session swings, but i have been consistantly over 10ptbb for 250,000+hands in 25nl-100nl, and haven't had a negative swing > 8 buy ins in my career..

In an unrelated note:
Just finished my best only cash game day ever +$550 over 2200 hands(18ptbb/100)
pretty sweet
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Postby rickjr82 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:06 pm

pretty sweet hand from this morning, I probably should have bet more on the turn

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players


Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with :6h :6s
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: :3c :6d :10h ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB raises to $14, Hero raises to $43, BB calls.

Turn: :6c ($94.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB calls.

River: :qh ($184.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $95, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $374.5


The guy was bragging about how great he played this hand, I wish I had just followed up on the turn, i was slightly worried about a slowplayed AA. luckily I ended up stacking him twice.

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with :5c :3c
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB raises to $12, Hero calls.

Flop: :3s :7h :ah ($25.5, 2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero raises to $35, BB calls.

Turn: :8h ($95.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: :as ($95.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $165.5
***
He Had 99
***

These 2 hands are the same villian who was running about 22/19, you would think he would not always hold AA or KK in these situations

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with :qc :qd
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, Button folds, SB calls, BB raises to $18, Hero raises to $39, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: :3d :3h :5s ($82, 2 players)
BB is all-in $163.49, Hero calls all-in $90.55.
Uncalled bets: $72.94 returned to BB.

Turn: :js ($263.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $263.1)


River: :2d ($263.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $263.1)


Results:
Final pot: $263.1
***
He had KK
***

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :qd :ad
2 folds, CO raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $15, CO calls.

Flop: :3d :10c :5d ($31.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $23, CO raises all-in $91.59, Hero calls all-in $56.52.
Uncalled bets: $12.07 returned to CO.

Turn: :5c ($190.54, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $190.54)


River: :5s ($190.54, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $190.54)


Results:
Final pot: $190.54
***
He had AA
***


And this guy was 3 betting me a lot, luckily I outflopped someone in a 4 bet pot

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with :jh :js
Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, BB raises to $13, Hero raises to $39, BB calls.

Flop: :10h :qc :jc ($78.5, 2 players)
BB is all-in $68.13, Hero calls.

Turn: :7s ($214.76, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $214.76)


River: :6h ($214.76, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $214.76)


Results:
Final pot: $214.76
***
he had KK
***


I ended up +$240 over 2 hours, and played pretty well

i did play this badly, villian was very loose I thought the turn push looked very strange after I checked(i.e. my overcards were good)

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with :ah :jh
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button folds, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: :6c :10d :7h ($19.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO calls.

Turn: :3h ($49.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO is all-in $159.69, Hero calls all-in $67.7.
Uncalled bets: $91.99 returned to CO.

River: :4s ($184.9, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $184.9)


Results:
Final pot: $184.9

***
he had 9h8h
***
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Postby rickjr82 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:32 am

This really sucked, some of these hands i really misplayed due to ultra monkey tilt from the constant 5 outers
-$460

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $75.07
UTG+1: $98.00
CO: $67.35
Hero: $105.00
SB: $139.48
BB: $286.16

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with :ad :kh
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: :10s :10d :6d ($29.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG raises all-in $61.07, Hero calls.

Turn: :3s ($151.64, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $151.64)


River: :8h ($151.64, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $151.64)


Results:
Final pot: $151.64
UTG shows Jh Jc

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1.1/$00
5 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.50
Hero: $5.30
Button: $54
SB: $50
BB: $1.92

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with :kh :qs
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: :kd :6s :4h ($1.1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0, BB raises to $0, Hero calls.

Turn: :2h ($1.1, 2 players)
BB bets $0, Hero raises all-in $30, BB calls.

River: :3h ($61.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $61.1)


Results:
Final pot: $61.1
Hero shows Kh Qs
BB shows Ks 4s
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
4 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $303.39
Button: $512.86
SB: $196.89
BB: $119.53

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with :kd :kc
Hero raises to $4, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: :js :6d :8c ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $16.75, Hero calls.

Turn: :ad ($43, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $30, Hero calls.

River: :9c ($103, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $68, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $239
Button shows Jc Ac

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $176.21
CO: $73.99
Button: $47.56
SB: $115.50
BB: $95.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with :kc :kd
Hero raises to $4, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: :4d :2c :jd ($16.5, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: :ac ($40.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $32, Button calls all-in $31.56.
Uncalled bets: $0.44 returned to Hero.

River: :9c ($103.62, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $103.62)


Results:
Final pot: $103.62
Hero shows Kc Kd
Button shows Ah Js
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $96.00
UTG+1: $625.39
CO: $75.18
Button: $75.01
SB: $215.58
Hero: $179.33

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :ks :10d
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: :9c :kh :10s ($3.5, 3 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: :4c ($12.5, 3 players)
Hero bets $12.5, UTG calls, CO folds.

River: :6c ($37.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $37.5, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $112.5
UTG shows Jc 3c

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $91.38
CO: $93.00
Button: $56.19
Hero: $54.05
BB: $648.33

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with :7s :as
2 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: :4d :6s :9s ($6, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $3, Hero raises to $13, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: :9h ($32, 2 players)
Hero bets $22, Button raises all-in $41.19, Hero calls all-in $17.55.
Uncalled bets: $1.64 returned to Button.

River: :9c ($111.1, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $111.1)


Results:
Final pot: $111.1
Hero shows 7s As
Button shows 9d Js

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $46.13
UTG+1: $25.58
CO: $16.39
Button: $48.75
SB: $53.04
Hero: $167.21

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :10c :10s
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: :7h :7s :3h ($6.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.12, Hero raises to $23, UTG+1 calls all-in $19.46.
Uncalled bets: $0.42 returned to Hero.

Turn: :qd ($51.41, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $51.41)


River: :kd ($51.41, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $51.41)


Results:
Final pot: $51.41
UTG+1 shows Qc Ac

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $46.00
UTG+1: $221.32
CO: $105.79
Button: $413.58
SB: $100.85
Hero: $84.34

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :jh :ah
3 folds, Button raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $23, Button raises all-in $407.58, Hero calls all-in $61.34.
Uncalled bets: $323.24 returned to Button.

Flop: :9d :2h :6c ($85.34, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $169.18)


Turn: :5d ($85.34, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $169.18)


River: :as ($85.34, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $169.18)


Results:
Final pot: $85.34
Hero shows Jh Ah
Button shows Ac Qh

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $40.16
Hero: $101.30
CO: $142.16
Button: $281.66
SB: $144.14
BB: $124.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with :10d :jd
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO raises to $6, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: :3d :ad :8d ($19.5, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, CO calls, UTG folds.

Turn: :5h ($39.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: :9d ($39.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $17, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $73.5
CO shows Qd As

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.65
UTG+1: $27.24
CO: $69.36
Button: $39.64
Hero: $119.60
BB: $32.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with :ah :kd
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: :ac :qd :3h ($4.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls.

Turn: :4s ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls.

River: :4h ($30.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $18, BB calls all-in $17.25.
Uncalled bets: $0.75 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $65.25
Hero shows Ah Kd
BB shows 4c 5d

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $131.30
CO: $51.32
Button: $100.47
SB: $519.49
BB: $76.97

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with :7s :7c
Hero raises to $4, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: :2s :4s :3c ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls.

Turn: :qd ($25.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button calls.

River: :ah ($65.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $65.5
Hero shows 7s 7c
Button shows Ks Qs


Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $125.38
UTG+1: $117.50
CO: $98.19
Button: $280.30
SB: $124.81
Hero: $96.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :9h :kd
3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: :9d :6c :5h ($3, 3 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: :6h ($9, 2 players)
SB bets $4.5, Hero raises to $12, SB calls.

River: :3s ($33, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $61
Hero shows 9h Kd
SB shows 10s 10h
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Postby rickjr82 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:02 pm

After this morning, this was my last 12 hours of sessions

Image

It's been 5 outer after 5 outer as well as
1)gutshots calling flop PSB's,
2) picking up turn outs
3) call turn 2/3 psb
4) hit backdoor flush or trips and bet pot when checked to and get the money in on river

all in raised pots, so I'm having to call about a PSB on the river(which still didn't give them correct odds to call turn, so at least i'm playing that ok)

And I think the worst part is I'm not getting paid off on my monsters, then it is check fold

So after a total $550 downturn(i'd say about $200 in tilt mistakes), I just couldn't take any more holdem.

I played 5 or so SNG's and broke even and continued with my crappy luck(3 handed set over set on a 6max bubble, and 3 handed flush over flush to knock me out in 3rd(would of had a huge chip lead)). Then I remembered that the only reason I am playing on the abomination that is pokerhost software is raked hands for the stage bonus.

So I fired up a couple tables of 50nl PLO(6-max). I guess this is mostly a european site because these guys are crazy. I ended up making about $300 back(at one point I was up $450) before I had to get ready for work. This is good, because I was really considering cashing out. The money isn't that important for me to slowly go nuts as I lose one stack at a time.

So I have 2440 raked hands out of the 3000 I need for the first stage(need to finish by sunday). I think I might stay on PLO for a while because most hands end up being raked and there are some horrible people on there. I might work some holdem back in next week.

Current BR in Pokerhost: $1037(I made $360 on Wednesday afternoon before the downturn began after work wednesday night, so over the past 2 days I am up $60 or so)

$250 in ewalletXpress

Current Profit for february: $2127 (probably about 45-50 hours)

I've never thought about it before, but I have never made over $1800 in a month without a big tournament score, so this has been my best month ever(with a couple of my worst days ever).

And I have a job now so I must be RICH! Wait, where did it go?.

crap.
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Postby rickjr82 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 pm

Also, how do I not get paid here(both players are 30+vpip)?

** Game ID 1892814700 starting - 2008-02-28 04:06:40
** Frozen Over [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - $ Cash Game) Real Money

- Orja sitting in seat 1 with $69.99 [Sitting out]
- MEGASTEAM sitting in seat 2 with $638.48
- _asken_ sitting in seat 3 with $102.00
- IamDeucE sitting in seat 4 with $115.50
- Laxxxen sitting in seat 5 with $92.00 [Dealer]
- imagiver sitting in seat 6 with $127.15

imagiver posted the small blind - $0.50
MEGASTEAM posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to imagiver: 4 of Spades, 4 of Hearts
_asken_ called - $1.00
IamDeucE folded
Laxxxen called - $1.00
imagiver called - $1.00
MEGASTEAM checked

** Dealing the flop: 6 of Diamonds, 4 of Clubs, Jack of Spades
imagiver bet - $3.00
MEGASTEAM folded
_asken_ called - $3.00
Laxxxen called - $3.00

** Dealing the turn: 3 of Hearts
imagiver bet - $9.00
_asken_ called - $9.00
Laxxxen called - $9.00

** Dealing the river: Jack of Hearts
imagiver went all-in - $114.65
_asken_ folded
Laxxxen folded
imagiver mucks:
imagiver wins $152.65 from the main pot

End of game 1892814700
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OK, i'm out

Postby rickjr82 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:52 pm

Alright, I think i quit again,

Played 6max omaha .5/1
lost most of a buyin when I had 2nd set to top set in a 3way pot 2 times within 5 hands
(lost the rest with AAxx against KKxx 50% in pf flop Kxx)
ended up -$30

played heads .25/.50 2 tables
-$650
dropped 13 buy ins

I adjusted, I became more aggressive, I became passive, I changed bet sizes, I started CRing nothing fucking worked I never had a hand against a strong second best

at one table, I lost $358 to one guy, $136 and $127 to the other 2

everytime we were all in I lost
every big pot, I lost
I thought I had an advantage
I made good laydowns
I would CR and he would hit, I would plan to CR a set or 2pr, he would check through and the next card would put 4 to a straight or the board went runner runner to put a 4 flush out there.

He open folded to my AA 3 times
I was outkicked with trips 4 times(and never outkicked him), last one was AJ vs AQ and I check called him with trips for 140bb's(I did split twice with full houses)

lost with KK in a reraised pot to j6d (125bb's)
lost with 2nd pair to his medium pocket pair probably about 5 times
AIPF 1010>>>JJ for 150 bb's
75% of my non top pair valuebets turned out to be wrong
i caught him bluffing maybe 4 times
I flopped a straight in a reraised pot and he check folded(he had 3bet oop)
I asked him what he thought near the end and he said that he had never ran this good


Played a horrible player and he hit and ran when his flushdraw beat my 2pr (all in on flop)

stacked his replacement for $35
won a big pot against the next guy
he doubles up through me 5 times and takes another $100 or so

my headsup stats today:
Image

and look at this beauty from 10k-11k
Image

There are almost no up on that graph, it is straight down

If i pushed in every hand blind, by graph would look better than that.
I got my hair highlighted, because I felt some strands were more important that others.
-Mitch Hedberg
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