LOL Fuckin idiot, I just went and fucked up everything I accomplished yesterday in 17 minutes and 30 hands - dropped 3 stacks. When the fuck will I ever learn that aggression doesn't work and that the only way to win these games is sit back, flop big, and let them pound the pot for me.

I'll try to get the cards right this time for those of you who care.

Hand 1 - I've played with opponent before (45/18 - moderately post-flop agg)
He has $19, I have him covered
[6d] OTB
UTG raises $0.85, MP calls, I call, BB calls

[Kd][Td] Pot $3.50
BB checks, UTG bets $2, MP folds, and here's Fuck Up #1
A play that I usually make about once per session is if I have a PP in position and a FD flops in a raised pot, I will generally call behind and play as if I have 11 outs so that I can rep the flush draw (9) + the hidden outs to a set (2). Here, I didn't realize that BB was still in the hand though and called where I would have otherwise folded with another player still in.
I call, BB folds so that wasn't too bad, but still a mistake

Pot $7.50
UTG checks, Fuck Up #2
Ok, I missed, check down or fold usually, but here UTG showed weakness so I figured that he missed. I'm an asshole and fell for it because $25NL games are supposed to be fairly straight up.
I bet $5, UTG c/r all-in, I fold

Hand 2 - Surprise, suprise at the same time as the 1st hand was going on, I'm dealt [6d] at the other table. There's a shocker. Same hand at both tables.
I've played with villain here too a bit and he's 36/18
Again I'm OTB (OTB w/ 66? Sounds really familiar, but Full Tilt says it's merely coincidence that this happens 10% of the time and that I should use PT and start reading 2+2 instead of making unprovable accusations. When I reply that I already do and offer to ship them my DB, they reply with their standard get lost, we're infalable message. Anyway, I digress....)

UTG min-raises, MP re-raises to $1.50, Fuck Up #3
I didn't see the min-raise and re-raise so I called, thankfully UTG just called as well.

[7h][5d] Pot $4.75
UTG checks, MP bets $2.75 ($15.70 left), I raise to $13 because this time I really do have 10 outs or I'm ahead I think, UTG folds, MP quicly calls w/ [Qc] and I'm 36% to win so it's actually really not that bad a play, but the turn and river are 7's.

Hand 3 - [Qs] UTG
I limp, TAG MP raises to $1.25, folded around, I call

[3d][Kd] Pot $2.85
I check, MP bets $1.55, looks weak - I just call

Pot $5.95
I check, MP bets $5, not so weak - I call fearing AK

Pot $15.95
AHA - I just bitch slapped AK, I lead $10.50, MP is all-in.....AA?? Beat that too.....I call
[Kh] Ah....case King then the 3 outter to the useless 2 pair on the river.

Sidenote: 3 out of the 4x I PFR'ed and saw a flop, I was either bet into or raised on the flop. Does my stack have to be at risk on every hand?

Red, to answer your question from the other thread, at this rate that Ipod might cost me market value and a lotta stress.

Wow, whatever I good I did yesterday, I did more than TWICE as bad today. I quickly lost the 3 stacks I won back yesterday + another four. I got absolutely crushed vs that maniac on that table. I watched him go from a high point of 12 stacks, down to 3, back up to 7 before he quit in a span of 300 hands over close to 4 hours.

He was raising with stuff like 96 and T5 and taking down pots, he'd call 3-bets with anything, flop middle pair and be all-in, suck out on over-pairs. I just couldn't flop better than him most times and when I did, he didn't want to play. I pulled off one complete tilting bluff against him for 1/2 a stack, but blew it off both times with AQ when I 3-bet and had him dominated only for him to hit his kicker and take big pots off me.

How do you play at 67/41 over 300 hands and come away +42 BB/100. How does everyone I seem to play against pull it off? Before this table I got it all in vs a 1/2 stack running 60/40 with AQ and he had AA. So about 98% of the time when he raises, it's not AA, I run into him the 2% it is. Then I got it in vs another 1/2 stack maniac preflop with AK vs A6s. Ship the straight on the turn for him. I moved to another table where another 53/12 player called down to 3 out me twice then runner-runner flush me. Also hit me once with a regular flush. He ran awesome and walked away +1 stack over 120 hands as well.

It's competely stunning, you're supposed to miss the flop 2/3 of the time. You do, they don't ever seem to. Playing half your hands and raising 20% shouldn't be a winning strategy, but it is. I'm taking the rest of the weekend off. May play Sunday. Will probably post some of the sick, sick, hands from this table tomorrow. If September ended today after less than a week, it would still be my worst month of the year.

There were guys bluffing off with J4 and getting called for 200BB with middle pair. It was so sick, yet I couldn't win.

I'm looking at my Poker EV chart for the month of Sept. Pretty ugly, the SB are way above actual results, until at one point they intersected yesterday, but then they are now way above again today.

Going to post 1 sick hand in the NL section now though.

Ok, this may or may not be a long, but hopefully entertaining one. I'm going to try to get yesterday out of my mind, share some of the sickest hands you've ever seen from that insane table that I played 300 hands at last night, maybe post some pics/graphs, and try to figure out if its worth staying at Full Tilt beyond this month, if not, what would be my best option, or should I just completely withdraw altogether.

Part I - Some Sick Hands From Last Night
Part I A - Hands from NOT the Sick and Crazy Table

A - 5-handed - I raise [Qs] to $0.85 UTG, CO (61/44) re-raises to $1.45 ($10.75 behind), I push, he has [As] - Standard - lucky me.

B - Very similar to the 1st hand, but even uglier - 5-handed - OTB (56/24) raises to $0.85, SB calls, BB w/ [Kc] I re-raise to $3.40, OTB is all-in for $13.10,
Hero says: since i love stacking off
I call.
[5s][4d][2d][9c] - I lose to [6c]

C - 16/10 slowplays his AA and lets me catch a 2 outter on the turn. Luckily for him, he played like a straight draw so I left some money on the table.
I raise [7c] UTG - SB just calls.
[Tc][5h] flop is checked - turn is c/r by SB to 4x my bet - he leads pot on river and I just called - He has [Ac] - Never slowplay on this site.

Other than that it was a lot of small - medium losses for like 10 - 20 BB per pot.

Part 1B - This is going to be the entertaining part. Here is a series of hands from that one sick, sick, sick table. Some of which sent me into shock. Ends up running a big long, but well worth the read for those who believe Full Tilt to be rigged.

If anyone can think of a better way to play vs the big stack given my notes and reads here, please, comments are welcome because these are the types of players I always have the most trouble with.

These are the stack sizes at a $25NL table when I sit down
Seat 1: ME ($25)
Seat 2: Track182 ($39.55)
Seat 3: MaCNeGTT ($130.40)
Seat 4: hyper420 ($42.80)
Seat 5: k RIO k ($58.15)
Seat 6: FrankRews ($40.95)

There's some money on this table. The table dynamic is that Seat 5 runs it up to about $100, then loses a big pot to Seat 3 and goes on super-tilt, dumping several more stacks to him. Seat 5 was running at 40/31 while tilting, but then calmed down late. He will play normally in rare instances when Seat 3 is not in the hand.

Seat 3 goes nuts and runs it up to $300, he will not fold if there is a raise preflop. He will either call or re-raise. If you re-raise him, he will call the 3-bet with any 2 cards and they are usually enough to win. On the flop, he will NEVER fold. On the turn he will either call, fold, check, or bet pot and any of these actions could mean he has nothing, a small piece of the board, or a monster (except fold of course). Same on the river so he was impossible to read. He runs at 67/41 consistantly over the 3+ hours I play at this table over 300 hands.

Here comes some

1 - I'm not involved (Seats 3 and 5), but HEY - Let's watch him dump off over 100BB with [4c] when he flopped and turned no pair, no draw, no nothing. This was just a pre-curser of what I was in for.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456485

2 - My 1st encounter with the big stack in Seat 3 (67/41). He limps, Seat 5 raises to $1.10, I re-raise [Qh] in the SB to $3..80, Seat 3 UTG instantly calls, flops GREAT, turns GOOD, and I fire off a stack and lose to a pair of 5's.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456513

3 - Seats 3 and 5 go at it again. This is the Super Suckout that puts Seat 5 on Super Tilt. [Qd] vs [6d] all-in on a [2c][8d][Jd] board.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456517

4 - This is the first pot I win off the big stack nut. Perhaps my mistake was getting aggressive back at him. Maybe I should have let him bluff off, but he may have had a lot of outs, who knows? So counter-aggression may work against him, but it has to put all your chips at stake.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456525

5 - This is that hand that I posted in the NL section. Here it is with the result. This is so sick. I thought I had a good shot at tripling up preflop. I was in the middle of seats 3 and 5 with [Kd], but of course, of course. I run like SHIT tonight
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456534

6 - This time the big stack ($250 now) catches pocket Kings again 3 hands later!!! And flops a set!!! AND LOSES TO QUAD 2's!!!!! to one of the tighter players at the table.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456553
Holy CRAP, that's a Bad Beat Jackpot in some places, ain't it?
This was the only solid player to have any success at this table. There were 2 others, but oddly enough they were the ones that I abused to recoup some losses vs the maniac.

7 - Another smallish pot vs the maniac. I tried to let him bluff off this time and he did pot bet on the river. If I had known his hand, obvlously I would have bet the turn, but I thought he was either ahead or way behind so I let him take the lead in the betting as he liked to do. This did accomplish him slowing down against me for a while since he now knew that I could check strong hands to him.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456572

8 - He's at it again. Calls a raise and re-raise from the BB. Calls a pot bet on the flop, when the turn gets checked around, pots the river for a 120BB on a fairly ragged board. How do you combat this? Check big hands to hiim?
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456580

9 - Here they go again. [7h] vs [5d] for a full stack
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456583
EFFING AMAZING! This poor bastard can't beat him.

10 - Here they go again. AK vs 66 and he loses his 5th or 6th stack to him.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456593

11 - Here's me again, large 3-bet with [Qs] blowing off another 1/2 stack. Maybe I should have called this river. This one really bugs me because I know he probably shows Kxs if I call.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456602

12 - This is me stacking the tightest player at the table, turning the boat vs trip Queens
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456608

13 - Here they go again. Seat 5 FINALLY gets him and they both have real hands.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456614

14 - And he gives it back. What a flop!!! Full Tilt is fucking with these 2, I swear!
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456619

15 - Firing off a stack with 95o and getting called down by bottom pair LOL. I should have called with that AQ hand.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456622

16 - Now a $100 pot between the 2 without a showdown!!!
Seat 5 gets him for the 2nd time now and this about ended his tilting even though he was still behind for a few stacks
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456630
He calls that river bet and it's a $200 pot in a $25 game!!!

17 - Here's me royally fucking up the nut flush draw against the tight player that I had stacked before. Cost me most of a stack. Fuckin idiot I am !
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456637

18 - And here they go again. Seat 5 is on a small roll now. But [6c]...really??? (I'm not as shocked by anything he does now)
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456642

19 - I've had enough of his shit, decide to bluff him off the pot, but actually hit on the turn. First decent sized pot I've won off him and I played it pretty horribly. I probably would have pushed if I hadn't hit the Jack, but now I wanted him to call.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456647

20 - Holy SICK SHIT.....guy flops a set of Queens and this maniac stacks him with the runner-runner inside straight draw.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456660

21 - Unreal, this poor bastard. Flops a set and loses another tremendous pot to the maniac's runner-runner flush. I want to cry for this guy. He probably killed himself after this session. Finished down 4 stacks. He's just a machine.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456669

22 - One last go, he drops another stack to him.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456671

23 - I limp re-raise him, have him dominated preflop, and I lose another stack to him...
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456674

24 - Last resort, tilting semi-bluff all-in vs the tight player again, but hey, it worked.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1456681

And then he left and the table broke.

WOW, this was even sicker and worse than I realized.

I ran AK/AQ against him 7x at this table and missed the flop 6 out of the 7 times. Christ if I had just hit 1 or 2 more times I coulda had a 3 or 4 stack swing here.

This was way longer than I thought it would be. So much crazy shit on that table. Maybe charts and shit later.

Part II - The Graphs

Here's a sceenshot of my September sets and other random stats from set-o-meter. Not flopping many sets and not making a whole lot on the ones I do flop either.



Here's my Sklansky Bucks graph from just yesterday (1200+ hands)



And here's the graph for all of September (4K+ hands).
-The part where the blue line intersects with the red line and actually climbs above was the one good day I had 2 days ago and then it's right back to the shitter.
- The decending green line that includes non-showdown hands mostly represents the infinate # of times that I PFR and then am bet into or c/r'ed and am put to a decision for my entire stack, almost always when I miss and have to fold.

so, sklansky owes you pretty much... that's good, right? hope it comes with some interest...

This is just so brutal. After taking 2 days off from NL HE, I went back at it today, inspired to play well, partially from the new direction that some have been advocating for the NL forum.

Result: Lose back everything I won on Omaha the other day + another stack (total 3 stacks) in less than an hour.

I can't be facing a decision for my stack every single time I raise and get called, I just can't.....but I AM!!

Take a look at this - Every single time I PFR today.

Table 1:
PFR w/ no flop 16 (took the blinds)

PFR w/ flop
- 99 UTG - BB 3-bets - KJJ flop - I fold - LOSE
- PFRR TT BB - 9Jx flop - c-bet takes it - WIN
- 65s CO - OTB re-raise - I call, miss flop completely - LOSE
- 87s MP - CO re-raise - T6A rainbow - check/fold no implied odds - LOSE

1 Win vs 3 Lose

Table 2:
PFR w/ no flop 2 (took the blinds)

PFR w/ flop
- 99 CO - called by K3o in SB - TAQ flop - K on turn - LOSE
- 97s OTB - K97 flop - BB folds to c-bet - WIN small pot
- AKo BB - I 3-bet - 442 flop - c-bet takes it - WIN
- T9s CO (1 limper who calls) - 985 mono flop - c-bet takes it - WIN
- KQs OTB (2 limpers) SB calls, limpers fold - 54K rainbow SB calls - turn 2 - SB leads 3/4 pot - I push - SB has set (55) - LOSE STACK

3 small Win vs 2 big Lose

Table 3:
PFR w/ no flop 3 (took the blinds)

PFR w/ flop
- QJo CO - OTB calls - flop 74J rainbow - c-bet takes it - WIN
- AJ OTB - SB 3-bets - BB calls - I fold - LOSE
- AJ BB - 3-bet OTB raise, get called - Q68 flop - OTB raises my $4 bet to $12 - LOSE

1 Win vs 2 Lose

Table 4:
PFR w/ no flop 4 (took the blinds)

PFR w/ flop
- ATs BB vs OTB limper who calls - 762 rainbow - fire/call - 8 turn - fire/call - T river - check/OTB bets pot - fold LOSE
- AKo 3-bet from BB - KJ7 flop - c-bet takes it - WIN
- ATs OTB (1 limp) but SB only caller - 833 flop - min-c/r from SB - fold - LOSE
- JJ BB - same guy OTB limps/calls - A26 rainbow - bet/call - 5 turn - bet/call - 6 river - check/check - OTB A3 - LOSE
- Q8s CO - OTB calls - calls c-bet - folds to 2nd fire on turn miss - WIN
- A9o CO - fold to BB 3-bet - LOSE
- QTs UTG vs 2 calls - check 8Jx flop - hit 9 on turn - everyone folds - WIN
- JJ SB vs 1 limp/call - 442 - c-bet takes it - WIN
- 98s OTB vs 2 calls - T7Q flop (OESD) - bet/called - A turn - check/check - 9 river - check/check - lose to QJ - LOSE

4 Win vs 5 Lose

Total PFR where the was a flop
9 Wins
12 Losses

Biggest Win on PFR hand +$3.35
Biggest Losses on PFR hand -$27+

Fuck 6-max - back to FR

Went back to FR tonight. This is getting to be soooo not worth the stress for the amount of money. A 4 hour 794 hand session:

1 - [Js] < [4s] on [Jh][Ac] flop vs 33/16 who is known to stack off with any pair. Ship a 5 on the turn.

2 - Open-raise [Qh] MP - SB (22/2) calls ($10.75 left) [Qs][8c] flop. C/R all-in from SB. He has [Kc]. I'm probably doubling him up either way.

3 - [As] BB - CO (44/6) open-min raise $0.50 ($13.95 left), SB calls. I make it $2.75 basically fucking up his set odds. He calls. [7c][8s] Guess his hand.....[Th]

4 - [6s] CO - MP idiot (44/3) limps, I raise to $1.10, OTB TAG calls, MP re-raises to $3 (I have no respect for this), I call, OTB calls. [Ad][Jd] checked around. Pot $9. Idiot bets $1, I raise to $8, OTB calls , idiot folds. I check/pay offf a $10 bet into a $26 pot vs [Qd]. At least she didn't get enough to make the turn call worth it.

5 - I run [Kd] into slowplayed [Ah] vs the same player from last hand with the flush. She just calls the preflop 3-bet and raises me in on the flop. Getting 4-1 and tilting, I call drawing just about dead.

6 - [9h] OTB - min-raise by UTG idiot, call by MP (35/15), I raise to $2.35, only MP calls.
[Tc][5d] flop - It all goes in - $60 pot
MP has [Th] Set over set



Only decent pot I won the entire night and got it in with 1 out.

7 - [Ts] OTB vs PFR and call. I 3-bet, get called and lose to [Th] on A-hi flop.

4 hours of play back at Full Ring for $9 loss.

Final charts for 6-max for September:

Not very encouraging.