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Postby username_disallowed » Mon May 07, 2007 8:06 pm

I've been wondering about this play:

PokerStars Game #9801521032: Tournament #49445722, $36+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/07 - 21:32:12 (ET) Table '49445722 3' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: spacemajor (2485 in chips)
Seat 3: USA7 (1110 in chips)
Seat 4: ECJENSEN56 (2425 in chips)
Seat 5: litteguy (1840 in chips)
Seat 6: Self (1285 in chips)
Seat 7: mats1 (1155 in chips)
Seat 8: yvon2222 (2925 in chips)
Seat 9: xbof (1385 in chips)
spacemajor: posts small blind 15
USA7: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Self [Ks] [Kh]
ECJENSEN56: folds
litteguy: folds
Self : raises 90 to 120
mats1: folds
yvon2222: folds
xbof: folds
spacemajor: raises 360 to 480
USA7: folds
Self : raises 805 to 1285 and is all-in
spacemajor: calls 805
*** FLOP *** [7c] [2s] [Th]
*** TURN *** [7c] [2s] [Th] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [7c] [2s] [Th] [Tc] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
spacemajor: shows [Kd] [Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Self : shows [Ks] [Kh] (two pair, Kings and Tens) spacemajor collected 2600 from pot

Preflop: Even though I'm at least 2:1 in nearly every situation, is it still right to push all in after his large reraise? I could easily just call, and push any non-Ace flop. His large raise basically guaranteed he'd call my preflop reraise, but he might muck to a nearly pot-size bet on such a crappy flop. And, if the A does come on the flop, I'm still comfortable with $800 so early.
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Postby SebQtaneus » Mon May 07, 2007 9:09 pm

IMHO you are fine the way it was. Anytime I can get allin PF with KK against one other player I'm a happy camper. PF he either had 3 outs or you were already a huge underdog, unfortunately he sucked out and hit one of the 3.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu May 10, 2007 8:33 pm

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Postby hard2tel » Fri May 11, 2007 5:15 am

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Postby Sunbob » Fri May 11, 2007 10:56 am

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+EV vs. Staying Alive

Postby username_disallowed » Fri May 11, 2007 3:46 pm

OK, so we have two camps:

+EV vs. Staying Alive early in a tourney

Anyone else have any input? Hard2tel, do you wish to elaborate?
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Re: +EV vs. Staying Alive

Postby hard2tel » Fri May 11, 2007 5:17 pm

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Postby DonkiFornication » Fri May 11, 2007 8:37 pm

This is a shove. If this weren't a satellite, you probably wouldn't ask about this hand, but nothing you could do here but go broke.
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Postby MTPaid » Sat May 12, 2007 12:28 pm

There is absolutely no other way to play it. If you call and push any non-ace flop then you are letting him off cheap with AK because he may only call if he beats you.
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