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Postby MTPaid » Sun May 11, 2008 6:43 pm

Stars $25K ($25+2.50) tonight. No reads, still early......

No Limit Holdem Tournament
$25.00+$2.50
9 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG (4740)
UTG+1 (2925)
MP1 (3150)
MP2 (3065)
MP3 (2925)
CO (2835)
Hero (2930)
SB (1710)
BB (2720)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-flop: (45, 9 players) Hero is BTN [Qc][Qs]
UTG raises to 90 (4650), 5 folds, Hero raises to 270 (2660), 1 fold, BB calls 240 (2450), UTG calls 180 (4470)

Flop: [Tc][4d][8d] (825, 3 players)
BB checks (2450), UTG bets 300 (4170), Hero raises to 990 (1670), BB calls 990 (1460), UTG folds (4170)

Turn: [6s] (3105, 2 players)
BB goes all-in 1460 (0), Hero ???

Ok, so we have an UTG raise and my re-raise and the BB cold calls preflop.
Then on the flop we have UTG bet into me, I raise and BB again calls.
Then he open shoves the turn for 1/2 pot.

He's not playing AA or KK this stupidly this far I don't think.
This makes sense if he's a moron with JJ.
The only friggen hand in the world I can figure a half way intelligent player playing this way is TT and even then the preflop call is slightly suspect.

Problem is, I don't know if he's a moron or not. I'm kinda leaning towards him being a moron though. Anyone disagree with the range vs an unknown in a $25 buyin here?
A) Snap call?
B) Difficult spot?
C) Fold?
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Postby TexasKowboy » Mon May 12, 2008 9:10 pm

Snap Call I put him on A,T or nut flush draw with a big A and he is trying to buy the pot. It's an over bet fo anything else.
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Postby MTPaid » Tue May 13, 2008 12:02 pm

You can really put him on AT after a cold call of a 3-bet preflop? And why would you say a less than 1/2 pot turn shove is an overbet?
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Postby Stelvask » Tue May 13, 2008 1:27 pm

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Postby DaFish » Wed May 14, 2008 3:41 am

BTW maybe it's just me but it seems the $20-$50 tournaments on PokerStars have worse players than a year ago or so? So that moron assumption has to be good :lol:

I call here anyways, for the same reasons as Stelvask.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Wed May 14, 2008 7:33 pm

I put him on ATs because online players are calling all in pre-flop with AT so calling 3 bets is nothing.

The reason I think it is an over bet is because if he had a big hand he would want to get more chips out of you not push and scare you. You have bet into him twice why not let you do it again and then check raise all in?
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Postby MTPaid » Wed May 14, 2008 8:51 pm

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