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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:01 am

***** Hand History for Game 5753742789 *****
$25 PL Omaha - Saturday, March 10, 06:58:17 ET 2007
Table Table 125406 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Hao76 ( $21.75 )
Seat 3: CoCa_In ( $33.20 )
Seat 5: DypDoM ( $47.05 )
Seat 6: adriano1265 ( $24 )
Seat 8: scheka22 ( $23.75 )
Seat 9: pluton333 ( $13.86 )
Seat 10: torexx ( $5.60 )
Seat 7: axel25111 ( $31.90 )
Seat 4: Babsje1 ( $0 )
scheka22 posts small blind [$0.10].
pluton333 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to axel25111 [ Js As 2h Kd ]
torexx folds.
Hao76 folds.
CoCa_In folds.
DypDoM calls [$0.25]
adriano1265 folds.
axel25111 calls [$0.25]
scheka22 calls [$0.15]
pluton333 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Jc, Jd ]
scheka22 checks.
pluton333 checks.
DypDoM checks.
axel25111 bets [$0.25]
scheka22 folds.
pluton333 folds.
DypDoM calls [$0.25]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
DypDoM checks.
axel25111 bets [$1]
DypDoM calls [$1]
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
DypDoM bets [$3.25]
axel25111 raises [$13.10]
DypDoM raises [$34.50]
axel25111 is all-In.
DypDoM shows [ Ah, Ac, Tc, 3s ]a full house, Aces full of Jacks.
axel25111 doesn't show [ Js, As, 2h, Kd ]a full house, Jacks full of Aces.
DypDoM wins $7.35 from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of Jacks.
DypDoM wins $61.30 from the main pot with
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:20 am

I wouldn't fold this hand no. What I would have done differently however is:

a) Bet the pot on the flop. It's -EV to be making these tiny bets. Opponents will call/fold/raise regardless of bet size on a paired flop.
b) Call the river bet instead of raising. Villain was not afraid of JJ on the board, which lets you know that he's either holding a J himself, or he does have AA. Because you have an A in your hand, him holding AA is less likely ... but still play situations like this on the side of caution. Better opportunities will come along to go for stack.

My favorite situation to be in is to flop the overfull. I can always suck in the underfull for stack at these levels.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:38 am

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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:12 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:34 am

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Postby teknipper » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:45 am

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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:48 am

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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:55 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:58 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:58 am

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A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:18 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:05 pm

ok monk. i belive you. i just tell you how i feel about it right now.

on q for you or pokerzen

who do you play 2 pair?? top pair? if the table is not connected vs conneted?
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Postby Ojingo » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:03 pm

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Postby pokerzen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:45 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby devil_Ax » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:17 pm

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