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Top 2 + gutty + weak flush draw

Postby GooperMC » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:13 am

***** Hand History for Game 3343942456 *****
$50 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Monday, January 09, 20:18:56 EDT 2006
Table Table 67035 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: hamysan ( $72.55 )
Seat 3: gyrodactylus ( $48 )
Seat 4: gatotigre ( $309.30 )
Seat 5: IAmABuggyBot ( $85.25 )
Seat 7: BooBomber ( $12.53 )
Seat 8: kio878 ( $66.28 )
Seat 10: NateCull ( $50.97 )
Seat 6: fab66 ( $49.25 )
Seat 1: jmmvd3 ( $19.50 )
Seat 9: ljhrocks ( $12.67 )
NateCull posts small blind [$0.25].
jmmvd3 posts big blind [$0.50].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IAmABuggyBot [Jc] [Ad] [Qh] [Tc]
gyrodactylus folds.
gatotigre calls [$0.50].
IAmABuggyBot calls [$0.50].
fab66 folds.
BooBomber calls [$0.50].
kio878 folds.
ljhrocks calls [$0.50].
NateCull calls [$0.25].
jmmvd3 raises [$0.50].
gatotigre calls [$0.50].
IAmABuggyBot calls [$0.50].
BooBomber calls [$0.50].
ljhrocks calls [$0.50].
NateCull folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [7c], [As], [Qc]
jmmvd3 bets [$2].
>You have options at Table 65413 Table!.
gatotigre calls [$2].
IAmABuggyBot ?????

Both opponents were calling stations.

You pull the trigger now or wait for a nice turn?
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Re: Top 2 + gutty + weak flush draw

Postby TomG » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:29 pm

You could call, but I'd be prepared to play the turn very cautiously. There's not a lot of safe turn cards and there are many turn cards that have the potential to make you an expensive 2nd best hand. The safest cards you really want to see are an A, Q or a non-club K for a total of 7 outs. The remaining cards will either enable a low or make you a non-nut high. Because of this, I don't think folding is entirely unreasonable.
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Postby GooperMC » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:37 pm

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Postby TomG » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:48 pm

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Postby JDLush » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:19 pm

In my latest round of leak detection, overplaying 2 pair was pretty high up on the list. This is one of those cases where your probable best hand at the moment is rarely going to be the probable best hand when all is said and done on the river. 80% of the deck kills you here.

AKxx and a flop of AK9 rainbow vs. 1 or 2 opponents is a case where you can argue for pushing harder with 2 pair. This is not that type of case imo. Folding is a pretty good option, flat calling is a marginally good option. Raising against all but the tightest of players is asking for trouble I think.
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Postby GooperMC » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:55 pm

Maybe you guys are right, I have had a habit of overplaying top 2. I guess that I was overvaluing the other parts of this hand.
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Postby Kuso » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:17 am

given the implied odds, i might peel one off for $2. i'd fold to a raise on the flop.

this hand could be a great one to push hard with one or two opponents (depending on reads), but i think it's tough to love in a multiway as it's very easy to make a second best hand.
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