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Postby Johnny Hughes » Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:01 pm

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Postby rdale » Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:58 pm

My generic answer to questions about my hand is, "I've got two cards.". After the hand, if someone asks, I tell the truth or lie about half in half. If I tell a lie, I usually tell them what they want to hear, which sounds like the truth to them, sometimes I obviously lie and say I had some rags, so that they are assured that I had a bigger hand than I likely held.

I frequently wear a cap, and can spy on the other player while appearing to stare blankly at a chip in the pot, which is my typical pose anyways. I avoid staring people down directly unless I think the situation calls for it.

The tells I use most often, weak means strong, strong means weak and staring at the board if it helps them. If all of a sudden they peel their eyes away from the football game long enough to stare at the T on turn, it probably helped them. Some people are the reverse of this, and staring at the board is a sign of weakness while the game is strength, but I found the majority to be the former.
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Postby Johnny Hughes » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:46 pm

I show only low cards one at a time. If I bet top pair, no kicker and pick it up, I might show the low card. I want all of them guessing. I never show a big hand or what I raised on unless they are real dogs.

In new casinos, I often announce from the button,"This is my favorite hand. It will make more money than any hand in hold 'em." Then I raise with a 8,7 or 7,6 and show it whatever happens. Hours later, someone will ask if I have "your favorite hand?"

When new in a casino, I play the rube. No chip tricks and trouble stacking chips or understanding the betting. I look easy until that big pot is over.

Being watched all the time allows you to send out little signals that these semi-smart players who read Caro can use as justifycation to cut their own balls off.
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Postby Aisthesis » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:21 am

Great article, Johnny.

A few things here regarding stuff that I have and haven't observed at my tables:

I guess the main one is whether people like the flop or not. I really do like looking at people's eyes (whether or not I'm in the pot) as the flop comes out, and before looking at it myself. I just don't see Caro's tell of the quick glance at chips, which of course isn't to say that some people do it.

But, against players I know, I do get a very definite sense of whether they like the flop or not. It's hard to put my finger on it, more just a feeling--perhaps they kind of puff up a little bit or their breathing changes, but it is very definitely possible to see how they like the flop. I'm hoping I can get a lot better on this one but felt like I was doing pretty well tonight, particularly when not in a hand (in a hand, I have a tendency to think a lot about my own betting sometimes, if the flop hits me in one way or another, so it definitely does distract me from being fully attentive to the reactions of others).

As a variation on Johnny's suggestion of studying the board: Kind of looking back and forth from the board to the players in the hand isn't bad at all, I think. I'm probably a little too nonchalant when the flop completely misses me--not really a horrible tell, but, by reverse inference, I know that the more perceptive players do know that when my brain starts working, something is getting ready to happen--giving them an opportunity to checkraise big hands or let me bet for them (as actually happened night before last).

I'm going to put another Caro tell that sounds very interesting (no empirical data yet, unfortunately) in a separate thread.
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