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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:57 am

if you're SB, can you get away from this? if so, how and why? forget the PF call... that's not the concept that i'm really concerned about... this can happen with any four.

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $68.60
UTG+1: $43.30
MP1: $70.45
MP2: $215.05
MP3: $297.80
CO: $198.05
Button: $83.90
SB: $229.40
BB: $86

Pre-flop: (9 players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds, CO raises to $8, Button folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6, MP2 calls $6.

Flop: [6s] [7c] [6d] ($32, 4 players)
SB bets $30.4, BB calls $30.4, MP2 raises to $152, CO folds, SB raises all-in $221.4, BB calls all-in $47.6, MP2 calls all-in $55.05.
Uncalled bets: $14.35 returned to SB.

Turn: [6d] ($524.1, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $266, Sidepot 1: $258.1)


River: [6h] ($524.1, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $266, Sidepot 1: $258.1)


Results:
Final pot: $524.1

SB: shows [7d 6h 9h 8s] (HI: a full house, Sixes full of Sevens)
MP2: shows [7h 4s 7s Ac] (HI: a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
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Postby JDLush » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:08 am

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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:18 am

yikes... i would, too.

here is the unedited HH.

PokerStars Game #4441752283: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/03/28 - 10:47:31 (ET)
Table 'Naema' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DumbHick ($198.05 in chips)
Seat 2: 520ranger ($83.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Shytalk ($229.40 in chips)
Seat 4: jwb885 ($86 in chips)
Seat 5: PokerCrazy80 ($68.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Tattoobymee ($43.30 in chips)
Seat 7: thetart ($70.45 in chips)
Seat 8: asia11 ($215.05 in chips)
Seat 9: SydSyd ($297.80 in chips)
Shytalk: posts small blind $1
jwb885: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
PokerCrazy80: folds
Tattoobymee: folds
thetart: folds
asia11: calls $2
SydSyd: folds
DumbHick: raises $6 to $8
520ranger: folds
Shytalk: calls $7
jwb885: calls $6
asia11: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [7c] [6d] [6s]
Shytalk: bets $30.40
jwb885: calls $30.40
asia11: raises $121.60 to $152
DumbHick: folds
Shytalk: raises $69.40 to $221.40 and is all-in
jwb885: calls $47.60 and is all-in
asia11: calls $55.05 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7c] [6d] [6s] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [7c] [6d] [6s] [Qc] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Shytalk: shows [7d] [6h] [9h] [8s] (HI: a full house, Sixes full of Sevens)
asia11: shows [7h] [4s] [7s] [Ac] (HI: a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
asia11 collected $258.10 from side pot
jwb885: mucks hand
asia11 collected $263 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $524.10 Main pot $263. Side pot $258.10. | Rake $3
Board [7c 6d 6s Qc Qs]
Seat 1: DumbHick folded on the Flop
Seat 2: 520ranger (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Shytalk (small blind) showed [7d 6h 9h 8s] and lost with HI: a full house, Sixes full of Sevens
Seat 4: jwb885 (big blind) mucked
Seat 5: PokerCrazy80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tattoobymee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: thetart folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: asia11 showed [7h 4s 7s Ac] and won ($521.10) with HI: a full house, Sevens full of Queens
Seat 9: SydSyd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Postby briachek » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:38 pm

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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:44 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby briachek » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:54 pm

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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:16 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby briachek » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:42 pm

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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:59 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby PokerBratt99 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:30 pm

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Postby januarymute » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:10 pm

With a third guy in there and no low draw, I might be able to get away from it (figuring one other for the case 6, which means the third guy has 77). It would be easier if it weren't 77 but rather TT or higher that the third guy would have to have; still, I think I get away if I'm playing my best.

Reminds me of one I played recently that was somewhat similar. However, that was pretty easy to go broke on, despite the fact the villain is very tight, doesn't get far out of line... see if you can think of a few reasons why if you feel like it:

***** Hand History for Game 3789960051 *****
$1000 PL Omaha Hi-Lo - Tuesday, March 21, 09:11:31 ET 2006
Table Every Penny (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: POKERGOD18 ( $3352.09 )
Seat 6: Lovellieah ( $2146.53 )
Seat 1: magic_bus ( $972.02 )
Seat 9: HakAllah ( $1000 )
Seat 7: OTMA3KA_ ( $538.50 )
Seat 8: rom22 ( $1011.75 )
Seat 3: EJWARM ( $796 )
rom22 posts small blind [$5].
HakAllah posts big blind [$10].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HakAllah [ 6s 6h Ad 3s ]

magic_bus calls [$10].
POKERGOD18 calls [$10].
EJWARM folds.
Lovellieah folds.
OTMA3KA_ calls [$10].
rom22 folds.
HakAllah checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 7c, 6c ]

HakAllah checks.
magic_bus checks.
POKERGOD18 bets [$42.75].
OTMA3KA_ folds.
HakAllah raises [$171].
magic_bus folds.
POKERGOD18 raises [$513].
HakAllah is all-In.
POKERGOD18 calls [$434.25].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]

POKERGOD18 shows [ Kd, 7h, 6d, Kh ] a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
HakAllah doesn't show [ 6s, 6h, Ad, 3s ] a full house, Sixes full of sevens.
POKERGOD18 wins $2022 from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of sixes.
There was no qualifying low hand.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:37 pm

if villain is tight, he has to have a four card hand in order to have 77 or 76 in order to limp from EP. LL77/LL67 (LL being A2, A3, etc.) or 67PP/77PP (PP being a big pocket pair) -- don't fear the four-card hand. you've got low outs (oops, counterfeited) even if he has you beat.

that being said, his flop reraise would make me scratch my head -- A237? A23x? A27x? or just fncked?

what did you put him on?



[edited to add comment on low]
Last edited by Kuso on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:39 pm

converted HH of januarymute



Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
7 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $972.02
UTG+1: $3352.09
MP1: $796
CO: $2146.53
Button: $538.50
SB: $1011.75
Hero: $1000

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with [6s] [6h] [Ad] [3s]
UTG calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, 2 folds, Button calls $10, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: [7s] [7c] [6c] ($45, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $42.75, Button folds, Hero raises to $171, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $555.75, Hero raises all-in $809, UTG+1 calls $434.25.

Turn: [3c] ($2005, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $2005)


River: [Jc] ($2005, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $2005)


Results:
Final pot: $2005
UTG+1 shows Kd 7h 6d Kh
Hero doesn't show 6s 6h Ad 3s
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