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PLO50 Call the flop and pot a safer turn?

Postby ihategnomes » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:17 pm

Whats a better line here? Call the flop raise and re-evaluate the turn? Given the way hero has played should I just go ahead and get allin on the turn with a 3-1 against a possible flush?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $60.55
UTG+1: $52.47
MP1: $45.75
MP2: $104.62
MP3: $52
CO: $48.75
Button: $71.04
SB: $60.40
Hero: $63.19

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with [Jh] [4d] [6d] [Jc]
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $1, 5 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: [2c] [9s] [Js] ($4, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.8, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $7.6, SB folds, Hero raises to $26.6, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: [3s] ($57.2, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 raises all-in $24.87, Hero calls.

River: [8c] ($106.94, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $106.94)


Results:
Final pot: $106.94
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Postby Kuso » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:21 pm

yes... i just call and reevaluate on the turn.
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Postby DaHitDogg » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:45 pm

I like your line. You have the current nuts. There are a lot of scare cards for you on the turn. If you call and a non-deuce spade, 8, T, Q, or K hits then you have to fold and may face a tricky decision if he checks. If you call and the board pairs you won't extract any more money unless he has a goofy two pair or low set. More importantly, there are a lot of scare cards for your opponent on the turn if he holds a hand you dominate. If a flush or straight card hits he'll give up his two pair or low set hands. If you raise the flop you are at worst slightly behind to even and could be way ahead. The turn call is the only questionable decision in my mind.
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Postby ihategnomes » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:26 pm

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:16 am

i reraise the flop as you want to be able to get all in on the turn if you want. If you just call the flop and the turn is a good card, I don't like going for the check raise as he might check behind you so if you lead out, you can only get $20 in the pot.

If you are gonna call all in on the turn, i say you lead out all in just in case he has a wrap straight draw, maybe even a low flush and will fold it. That being said, your turn call is marginal and you should only make it if you think he could be betting with something other than the flush. If you know he has the flush, you have to fold.
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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:18 pm

Pre-flop: I fold this one. Anything below pocket Kings, and I need something else (like a wrap - JJT9 or JJKQ, for example) before I'll play it, especially against a raise when you're OOP.

Flop: A good flop for you. You've got the best hand, so now's the time to see if you can get him to fold his overpair. I think the re-raise here is fine, as it basically tells him you've got a set. The fact that he called the re-raise, instead of folding, tells me that he almost certainly has a draw to go along with his overpair.

Turn: A bad turn. He pushes, knowing that you have a set, so unless you know him to bluff scare cards, I think you have to assume he hit his draw and lay it down here.
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Postby ihategnomes » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:48 pm

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:49 pm

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:16 pm

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:39 pm

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:54 pm

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:13 pm

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:07 pm

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