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Big enough draw to push with?

Postby stickdude » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:00 am

I'm still trying to get that "feel" for when my draws are big enough to go to war with. Only this time, I'm doing it at a low enough level that my BR can easily absorb a miss...

Here's my first big hand of the night -

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02
9 players


Stack sizes:
Hero: $4.84
UTG+1: $5.12
MP1: $3.16
MP2: $2.44
MP3: $4.60
CO: $0.91
Button: $3.03
SB: $6.36
BB: $3.90

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with [Qc] [Js] [9h] [Td]
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [7d] [Jd] [Kh] ($0.16, 8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.16, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises to $0.8, 5 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 raises to $3.36, MP1 calls all-in $2.34, Hero calls.

Yikes!! I have a pretty big draw, so I went ahead and led out (I'm really working on aggression), but I didn't expect this kind of action. You generally don't see re-raises like that with flush draws, so I'm guessing I'm up against at least 1 set - probably UTG+1.

Anyway, any non-diamond 8, 9, T, Q, or A gives me the nut straight. Anybody folding this to all this action?


Turn: [4c] ($10.02, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $9.58, Sidepot 1: $0.44)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.46, Hero calls all-in $1.46.

Turn is a blank, but I'm what they call "pot committed" by now . :)

River: [3s] ($12.94, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $9.58, Sidepot 1: $3.36)

Another blank... something tells me my pair of Jacks isn't going to be good here...


Results:
Final pot: $12.94


So, does anyone fold that flop? I guess that's my biggest question - or should I have gone ahead and pushed the flop instead of calling, since it's not like anybody's going anywhere?
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Postby briachek » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:04 am

good rule of thumb, don't go to war with a big straight draw on a flush draw board unless you have the flush draw too. A wrap straight draw is something i go to war with on a rainbow board and i want to have the top end draw. A Q and T give you non nut straights. If you have the flush draw with your hand, its possible to go with it but with that much action, you think someone has the flush draw too.

With that many people behind you, check the flop and see what happens. If you are in later position, then i would bet it. Unwise, check and evaluate when it comes back to you. on this kind of board, if the betting doesn't get out of control, i probably check call and look for a non diamond to continue.
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Postby Kuso » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:06 am

wwcrd?

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Postby stickdude » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:14 am

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