I thought I played this one very poorly, but it could be I'm being too results-oriented. Kuso didn't think it was as horrible as I thought it was...

Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha High, $.25 BB (9 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

BB ($33.60)
UTG ($18.95)
UTG+1 ($9.40)
Hero ($25.10)
MP2 ($48.50)
MP3 ($21)
CO ($28.45)
Button ($5.75)
SB ($20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , , , . SB posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75, 3 folds.

So far, so good.

Flop: ($2.50) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP2 calls $2.50, MP3 folds.

Hmmm... he didn't fold like he was supposed to

Turn: ($7.50) (2 players)
Hero bets $7.5, MP2 raises to $30, Hero calls $14.35 (All-In).

Played like a true fish. This is exactly the kind of play that I stack other people with. I know better than to overplay Aces like this.


River: ($59.35) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $59.35

Results in white below:
Showdown:

Ray_McKegney shows Qh Td 5c Kh.
Ray_McKegney has Qh Td Th Qs 7c: two pair, queens and tens.
stickdude shows Jc As 4s Ah.
stickdude has As Ah Th Qs 7c: a pair of aces.

Outcome: MP2 wins $59.35.


I didn't run the numbers last night, so here goes:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1707636
pokenum -o qh td 5c kh - jc as 4s ah -- th qs 6c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 6c Th
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5c Td Kh Qh 512 62.44 308 37.56 0 0.00 0.624
As 4s Jc Ah 308 37.56 512 62.44 0 0.00 0.376

Not great, but it's actually better than I would have guessed. Obviously, I'm much worse off if he's got a set here.

sure, you may not like playing a big pair in a 6 handed pot when you don't flop a set (which as stone said, its easy, check fold in all by extreme instances) but i would hate playing a big pot out of position with just an overpair even more. you lose a limp playing it without a raise. you could easily lose a stack playing it for a raise.

You are raising oop and can't raise that much so you aren't getting anyone with a decent hand to fold preflop and now they might have a better idea what you have and they have position.

If you played it for a limp, you lose 25 cents. You play for a raise, you likely win an extra $1 or lose $2.50+. I don't like the difference.

As to the raises, for whatever it's worth: I feel like I'm really just getting started with raising in Omaha, but I just don't raise OOP (ok, maybe AAKKds or something would be hard to resist). I raise a LOT, however, in LP.

For a while, I was also mini-raising with position on draw-type hands in multi-way pots. Idea: I really want everyone to call because I'm getting the most bang for my bucks. If you do that it's easy to get away from. Also, if there are 5 or 6 limpers before me in LP, I do view AA as a "draw-type" hand. I may bet it unimproved sometimes, but the flop is going to have to be pretty optimal to do so.

At the moment, I've gone for raising full pot when I raise, but I'll have to admit that my results were actually better when I was doing this mini-raise strategy, which may be better if you have little fold equity. It just becomes very tempting to CB too often (I like to think that I don't, but that may be wrong) after raising pot.

For this most part, I've been trying to restrict my preflop raises to LP. This hand was a good reminder why not to raise OOP.

re: AAxx in LP with 5 or 6 limpers in front - I think it somewhat depends on the table. If I think I can drive out all but 1 or 2 of then with a pot-sized raise, I'll raise. If the table is such that they'll all call, then just limp and play for a set.