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Seeing flops with suited connectors

Postby MTPaid » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:04 pm

I've been looking at my play with medium to small suited connecters in NL Hold'em lately. I know the point of playing them is that you need to flop at least 2 pair, a set, a straight draw, a flush draw, or better to continue.

Over 2297 hands I have seen a flop with mid to small suited connectors (87s - 43s) 36x.

I have flopped 2 pair 1x, but board came 2345 on the turn and I had to let 43 go so I can't really count that as a good flop.

I have flopped trips 1x.

I have flopped 1 OE straight draw (actually 3, but 1 was 3 of the same suit - not mine - and 1 was 89J to my 67 which I had to let go) which was not completed.

I have flopped at least a flush draw (9 outs or more) 3x and ZERO have been competed.

So I have only won 1 hand in 36 with mid to small sc's. At least I'm not over-playing them on the flop and can make up the losses with just 2 or 3 hits.

I assume that winning with suited connectors is akin to hitting a set (7.5 to 1) and try to play them accordingly, but are they really about the same odds or am I just in a bad stretch? I realize that this is a small sample size, but I was just wondering if I had the odds/win expectancy right.


Extra credit question: How long does one usually go between strong PFRing hands? How common is it to go through 100 or more hands without seeing any of the following hands? I considered AA-TT, AKs-AJs, AK-AQ and even KQs PFRing hands, of course depending on the situation. The reason I ask is because I had a session of 115 hands tonight without any of the hands mentioned.
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Postby NorthView » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:00 pm

0 gap medium suited connectors eg 76s
Flop a FD 11%
Flop an OESD 11%
Flop 2 Pairs 2%
Flop a Straight 1%
Flop Trips or a Full 1%
Flop a Flush 1%


1 gap medium suited connectors eg 75s
Flop a FD 11%
Flop an OESD 7%
Flop 2 Pairs 2%
Flop a Straight 1%
Flop Trips or a Full 1%
Flop a Flush 1%
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Postby NorthView » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:44 am

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Re: Seeing flops with suited connectors

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Postby MTPaid » Mon May 14, 2007 12:59 pm

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Re: Seeing flops with suited connectors

Postby MTPaid » Mon May 14, 2007 1:00 pm

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