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$100 PLO - Should I have played stronger?

Postby AppleCrumble » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:57 pm

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (7 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($100)
MP1 ($33.95)
Hero ($193.50)
CO ($91)
Button ($170.80)
SB ($262.25)
BB ($93.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with JImage, AImage, TImage, AImage.
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($14) AImage, 9Image, 3Image (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $13.3, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $13.30.

Turn: ($40.60) 8Image (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($40.60) 4Image (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $40.60

The villain here is the tightest preflop player on my database and I don't give him much credit for double barrel bluffing, however I expect he can play the flush in position 1 time.

The plan is to call both to here to see if I can boat up and also to see if he will fire again. If I don't boat up and he pot's it again I plan to fold. If he checks I will believe I am good and check-call river. Hoping to induce bluff and also minimise loss if he has made flush.

I guess the check behind on turn tells me he doesnt have K high flush or he would pot it for sure. Do I value bet river? Do I check-call or check-fold?
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Postby Kuso » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:15 pm

my guess is that he has a non-nut flush. only bet if you think you can get him to fold a flush (based on what he has shown down to heat in prior hands). only call if you think he can bluff without a flush.

in this case, since there are shades of tight, i really think i'd prefer a check on the river unless you see that he has a REALLY high fold percentage to river bets.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:57 pm

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Postby AppleCrumble » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:03 pm

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:14 pm

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Postby Aisthesis » Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:39 am

Yeah, I don't see your being good here at all against a tight player. Kuso's right on the money about what he has imo (were we right?).

3 other players in... I think I'd bet if they were weak, maybe even CR. But you're underdog here more often than not if you get a caller. I think the real trick is indeed getting them to lay down non-nut flushes.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:17 am

So far a lot of the trouble hands you have posted has one thing in common, you have raised from EP. I would suggest stopping that and only raise in the last 3 seats.
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Postby AppleCrumble » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:56 am

He actually had 99 for the lower set. I'd have been in trouble if the last 9 came.

I raise tighter from EP but would anybody else not be raising AAJTds here? Surely Omaha ands don't get much better than this.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:38 am

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