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Postby pokerzen » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:06 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:14 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby pokerzen » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:18 pm

Last edited by pokerzen on Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:25 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby MacAnthony » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:49 pm

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<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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Postby pokerzen » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:01 am

Last edited by pokerzen on Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby gsdavid » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:11 am

Its all matter of effort, ive been actively playing poker for 5 months(first time i ever played was in March of this year, but from May i started reading forums and reviewing my plays. I probably spend 10-12 hrs a day in inital two months on poker, mostly playing like 5 hrs and reading/reviewing 5-7, where my primary focus was tilt managment(I havent tilted in past 2 months until yesterday and that was for 3/4 of a buy in(i tilted because i made a typo when betting, wanted to bet 5, betted 50$, called 70$ push with 0 outs..and next hand i had two pair vs set where i didnt fold due to tilt) u cant not tilt if u play for 15 hrs..i get tired after playing 2.5-3hrs sessions so i take at least 20 min breaks
basically to reduce tilt u need to be able to end session as soon as u realize that you are going to play below your B game...i had several sessions which ended in 14 mins or less(with waiting for tables and posting blinds that was less than 100 hands)
So..what i suggest is that u first focus on reducing all of the "stupid mistakes" which are basically moves/calls that make no sense that you would never make after reviewing your hand..its calling small bets on river with almost no chance of winning, not being able to fold anywhere from 30-60% of stack when river hits flush or something(he pushes and u cant fold), chasing draws without odds and implied odds, making loose preflop calls(90% people are making that mistake, expecially now where in some sites fish are fewer so your postflop edge is not as great as before), and then focus on increasing your MT ratio to 6+
I started by playing 4 tables and after 2 weeks moved immiediately to 6 and 8 tables of first FR then 6max..when u get to that, focus more on reads and value extraction..but i find the first goal the most important one, which is basically discipline to not tilt and reduce number of ABC mistakes..with first 2 goals reached u can beat all limits up to middle stakes(100-200$ NL) well and then u need to focus more on developing/broadening your game and learning to manipulate weak opponents(induce bluffs or such)...Its not easy, ive made a thread 5 months ago how to get 50$ a hr and got few good inputs(yes.. some ppl made a joke of me :twisted: forum/viewtopic.php?t=14379
In there Xaston said the truth, "You can make a shitload of money with hard work in either game. The same is true of Omaha/8 or PLO or PLO8 as well"
But u must note that hard work does not include playing 15 hrs a day but thinking about every play u make while playing and afterwards analysing it
Im right now 8 tabling 6max 100$, 60k hands at 4ptbb, last 30k with 6.25ptbb
its all matter of effort and discipline..yes i know we always oversimplyfy it..like everyone can beat this game..if same was true for wallstreet, spotsbetting, forex whole would would be rich and yet for some reasons, similary to poker there are 90% losing players(in forex and sportsbetting) since poker is like those two, a zero sum game
i see u are playing on 50$ NL..i started playing there after 3 months of serious 25$ NL grinding(circa 200K hands), played abou t20k hands on 50s and since i had enough experience at 25$NL i moved to 100$ NL..basically u have a small bankroll, i suggest u bonuswhore it at 10/25$ NL to 1200$+ and only then move to 50$ NL..
To summarize, there are a lot of wannabe pros as above posters have mentioned, but for me getting to 200$ NL is almost(it is actually) being a pro if u put in 100-140 hrs a month since with sound MT ratio u can make anywhere from 80-150$ a hr
GL
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Postby GooperMC » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:15 am

Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby pokerzen » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:26 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby MacAnthony » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:57 pm

Mac - Getting quoted in sigs since 2006


<emmasdad> pulling an ED = getting wasted and firing off 1/2 the BR???
<Trump34> yep
<emmasdad> i have only done that 3 times in a year and a half. . .
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Postby gsdavid » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:18 pm

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Postby Xaston » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:26 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Xaston » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:31 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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