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Yet some more questionable play by me

Postby briachek » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:37 pm

Hand 1

Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (10 handed)

Hero ($24.9)
Button ($57)
SB ($15.93)
BB ($52.06)
UTG ($25.74)
UTG+1 ($50.86)
UTG+2 ($21.4)
MP1 ($21.61)
MP2 ($64.49)
MP3 ($48.03)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [Ad], [7d], [Ts], [As].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) [5h], [Ac], [4d] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.25) [3c] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($5.25) [6c] (2 players)
MP3 bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $10.25

Results in white below:
MP3 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP3 wins $10.25.


The guy calling me was a complete muppet and he could have anything. He wouldn't have folded for a max raise preflop but doing so would have allowed me to bet bigger on the flop but that might have cost me my stack. Is my play too weak tight on the later streets? so many straight and flushes possible that I felt I should fold.

Hand 2

Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (8 handed)

Hero ($25)
UTG ($17.45)
UTG+1 ($21)
MP1 ($23.05)
MP2 ($21.36)
CO ($31.7)
Button ($23.3)
SB ($114.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Th], [Qd], [Td], [Qh].
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) [4h], [9h], [Js] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2, UTG folds.

Turn: ($7.35) [4s] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $12.35

Results in white below:
No showdown. CO wins $12.35.


Should I reraise the flop with my draw if I really think he has AA or KK? I only have the Q high flush draw so he could have that beat.

Hand 3

Party Poker Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($30.16)
UTG+1 ($56.76)
MP1 ($19.1)
MP2 ($21.22)
MP3 ($24.75)
CO ($13.13)
Button ($25.54)
SB ($22.81)
BB ($67.79)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [4c], [6c], [Ac], [Ah].
Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 raises to $1.35, 2 folds, CO raises to $4.9, Button calls $4.90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $21.55, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $17.75 (All-In), CO calls $8.23 (All-In), Button calls $16.65.

Flop: ($75.93) [9d], [Qd], [5d] (4 players, 2 all-in)
Hero bets $8.61 (All-In), Button calls $3.99 (All-In).

Turn: ($88.53) [3d] (4 players, 4 all-in)

River: ($88.53) [6s] (4 players, 4 all-in)

Final Pot: $88.53

Results in white below:
The results aren't right from the converter. I lost to the CO who had [ As 3s 5c 9c ] with 2 pair and won some money in the side pot with just AA. MP1 had [ Tc 8c Js 9s ] and Button had [ 8h Qc Kc Td ]


I assume this is the proper way to play this. CO goes on to say how his hand was so good because he had so many draws. Good for him.
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Postby Hofstra » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:00 pm

Hand 1) We had a discussion a while ago about not raising these hands preflop, but I really think that all the circumstances here point in the direction of a potsized raise. You have position, a big hand and you need to limit the field. In a raised pot you are much, much happier with this flop than in an unraised pot. You were lucky that it was checked to you since people could have flopped a straight. Moreover, you want to be able to get some serious part of your stack in on a good flop.

Anyway, pot bet on flop is fine; his call probably tells you that he is drawing. On the turn, I guess it comes down to how much of a muppet he really was. If he would call on the flop with two pair, then I might fire on the turn again (and of course drop it to a raise). But remember that it is unlikely that he puts you on top set...

Hand 2) Very dependent on the opponent I think. Is this is a player who only raises (and subsequently overplays) AA, or does he raise with many hands from late position? In the first case, I would call the flop and also call the turn. I don't think you gain much by raising the flop here, unless he is good enough to fold an overpair. You have 10 clean outs, and it is quite possible that your flush is also good. Since he overplays AA and many of your straight and boat outs are quite concealed, you will extract some more on the river.
In the second case you could be up against AA, but also against a different type of hand. You might be up against a set of jacks even. I might lead out or checkraise the flop to determine whether my opponent only has an overpair (which he will probably fold to a raise) or a made hand (in which case he'll reraise). If he calls, then I worry about my flush outs being not good, and I slow down when the turn doesn't help me.

Hand 3) You almost got your stack in preflop with AAxx, what more do you want? You're a money favorite here, although MP1 also had quite a juicy hand.

Pieter

ps Brian, what do you think if we try to talk Monk into having a PLO ring game with BTP'ers like we did with Piers?
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Postby briachek » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:49 pm

we could try a BTP PLO game but I would only be comfortable with small stakes. I'm much more confident with my NLHE skills and i was relucant to put it in against them, although I won nicely. We could try but I'm just concerned that the NLHE games were shorthanded and we have TONS of NLHE players so the odds of getting a good omaha game could be hard.
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Postby Hofstra » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:41 am

Would $25 buyin be ok for you? We could play on pokerstars. It would already be nice to play with 4 or 5 BTPers. Maybe I can talk Adam into it too.

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:50 am

yeah, $25 would be fine as that's what I usually play.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:43 pm

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