Ace2929 pulls this minraise in EP with AA and T8o alike. I was gonna squeeze just because the effective stacks showed me that it was very possible, but the 2nd caller thwarted that plan. The pot was ridiculously large, so I decided to call and push a good enough flop. Is this good enough? None of these guys are idiots in big pots postflop. Anyone just dumping this preflop or still pushing despite 2 callers?

Hand #38501114-169 at Mon9pmA-006 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 09/Jan/07 00:00:41

The Pitbull is at seat 0 with 12290.
ThrillsnKills is at seat 1 with 34770.
brv dave is at seat 2 with 27695.
Ace2929 is at seat 3 with 13610.
EagleMoney is at seat 4 with 24820.
Raven-10 is at seat 5 with 23055.
tadao916 is at seat 6 with 16175.
Merlin2008 is at seat 7 with 19560.
zmen is at seat 9 with 19895.
The button is at seat 7.

The Pitbull posts ante (125).
ThrillsnKills posts ante (125).
brv dave posts ante (125).
Ace2929 posts ante (125).
EagleMoney posts ante (125).
Raven-10 posts ante (125).
tadao916 posts ante (125).
Merlin2008 posts ante (125).
zmen posts ante (125).
zmen posts the small blind of 600.
The Pitbull posts the big blind of 1200.

The Pitbull: 7s 8s
ThrillsnKills: -- --
brv dave: -- --
Ace2929: -- --
EagleMoney: -- --
Raven-10: -- --
tadao916: -- --
Merlin2008: -- --
zmen: -- --

Pre-flop:

ThrillsnKills folds. brv dave folds. Ace2929 raises
to 2400. EagleMoney calls. Raven-10 folds.
tadao916 folds. Merlin2008 calls. zmen folds. The
Pitbull calls.

Flop (board: 4c 8d 9d):

The Pitbull goes all-in for 9765.

Well its ok I guess... flop isnt really that big.. odds are that most of the time you`re gonna get away with it, but when you do get called you`re crushed by overpairs and stupid stuff like 89 and 910. If you push preflop you get rid of the mediocre hands which may cripple you on this flop. You will always still get called by overpairs regardless of whether you move postflop/preflop so I think its better to move preflop cause you get rid of those junk hands which murder u on the flop.

I like it. There's no great reason to commit yourself preflop with a poor heads-up hand, since you have enough chips to push someone off on the flop. You also have enough chips to play another orbit and steal some more blinds if you miss. It's unlikely that either player paired the flop so if you get called it would be a draw, a very loose call with overcards, or you're crushed by an overpair/set. I like those odds.

Eli

Your M is somewhere between 3 and 4 if I'm correct. If you've been playing tight, this is something I would push preflop in this situation if I'm going to play at all and I probably am going to play it. I don't hate the way you played it, but if you miss the flop, which you still will most often your gonna have to give up. You have even more ways to win if you don't give them a chance to see a flop. If I get called, I'm not all that upset. Your about 40% vs 2 OC's. If they're not stupid like you say they aren't, they realize that even though your the short stack, you can still do enough damage to them to make them fold. This is where I'd probably take my shot at trying to double up.