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Postby SebQtaneus » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:09 am

Normally I don't get involved in hads this early with stuff like T9o, but with just one limper I figured I may be able to just steal the pot from the button with a decent raise. After that, one thing just led to another and every round I got deeper into it I wasn't quite sure whether to fold or not. In the end, I won the hand but did I play this wrong?

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Postby Kuso » Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:03 am

first, limpers rarely fold to a pfr at this level, so you'd really have to bet a lot to hope to take it down pf. open-raising is fine if you're into that in early stages and your opponents have been super-tight.

as for the flop, if you are't comfortable getting it all in with this hand with this flop, then i don't think you should play it. you don't necessarily have to jam the flop, i'm just saying that i hope you're just trying to figure out the best way to milk the most out of villain.

i can't really believe you gave serious thought to folding this. :shock:
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:46 pm

3 draws on the board all 3 of which are to hands better than my straight, he calls my PFR then CR's my pot bet on the flop and is pushing allin at me on the turn and you don't see why I considered folding?
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Postby kennyg » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:06 am

yeah i might have folded the turn actually. AT, a flush, and a boat beat you. Def a marginal situation.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:37 am

i dunno...

first, i was mainly talking about the flop.

as for the turn:

flush - you have outs unless he has the [As]

better straight - do you really think the nut straight decides to push into an aggressor on a high paired flush board?

boat - in plhe i might see a bet here, but in nlhe? in an sng? i realize that most of these players are bad, but you're much more likely to be slowplayed than open-pushed. don't expect thinking like "i'll push since there's no way he'll put me on it".


i would say that it is possible that some guy shot his load when he made his boat, but i think you'll statistically be more likley to run into a semi-bluff or bluff by a hand that beats you. if you can't make this call precisely to take the chips from a blufftard, then i think you should not play this hand pf at this point in the tourney (and there's nothing wrong with that).
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:26 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:44 pm

You need to make this decision on the flop. I really hate your call of the CR, either you need to push or fold. You really aren't sure what cards you really wanna see on the turn other than the [As]. A spade could be a good card but he might also make this raise with [As] in his hand. Once you call the flop you are now getting 2:1 on your money so you are pretty much going to have to call any turn all in unless an Ace or king comes off. I would also echo what was said before don't raise 109o in the early levels, play small pots without big hands.
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