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Postby oatmealforxmas » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:56 am

I tried picking up on some girls in the Hallmark card shop the day before valentines day. This may not have been my best idea.

Yeah. Mostly I've given up.

Now I've given up AND I've told you.
[12:17] heat517163: i won 26k last month
[12:17] heat517163: and havent bought ANYTHING
[12:17] heat517163: not one thing
[12:17] heat517163: i almost bought a few shirts
[12:17] heat517163: but monicas like
[12:17] heat517163: "you dont need more clothes"
[12:17] heat517163: meh
[12:17] oatsforxmas: ha
[12:17] heat517163: wanted funny shirts
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Postby black_knight6 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:39 am

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Postby pokerzen » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:32 am

+15 buyins now in the last 24 hours. Playing 20PLO~High as always. Maybe I should try the 400PLO table and see how that goes.

:lol:

No wait.

:shock:

Yah bad idea.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:43 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:22 am

So actionharris makes a prediction that his next hand will be the nuts. It was. So I tried too. Whoops.

pokerzen> next hand i will have the second best hand
pokerzen> which i will bet heavily on
pokerzen> second best hand here we come


> pokerzen posted small blind ($0.10)
> seven72 posted big blind ($0.20)
> Game # 1,206,647,163 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards [Qh] [8d] [Qc] [7d]
> mo123 folded
> stachu folded
> murvel-x called for $0.20
> actionharris raised for $0.90
> pokerzen called for $0.80
> seven72 called for $0.70
> murvel-x folded
> Dealing the Flop [9d] [4d] [6s]
> pokerzen checked
> seven72 bet for $2.90
> actionharris called for $2.90
> pokerzen called for $2.90
> Dealing the turn [5s] ----> I've got the current nuts here and am only afraid of the flush ... bet the pot to shut out the flush draw odds.
> pokerzen bet for $11.60
> seven72 went all-in for $1.20
> actionharris called for $11.60
> Dealing the river [9h]
> pokerzen bet for $17.20
> actionharris went all-in for $4.01
> Extra chips returned to pokerzen, $13.19
> pokerzen shows a Straight, Nine high
[9d] [8d] [7d] [6s] [5s]
> actionharris shows a Full House, Nines full of Fours
[9d] [9h] [9s] [4d] [4c]
> seven72 mucked
> actionharris wins $43.72 with a Full House, Nines full of Fours
actionharris> mhm

pokerzen> told you
actionharris> second best
actionharris> srry :)
actionharris> wouldnt have called if it wasnt for the flush draw
pokerzen> my own fault ... i jinxed it
actionharris> hehe
pokerzen> that was kind of eerie now that i'm thinking about it
actionharris> hehe
actionharris> You should never mess with the effect of the eight ball!
pokerzen> yah ic that for sure!
Last edited by pokerzen on Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:15 am

Omaha is a sick sick game. Anybody want to hear some really funky bad beat stories? I'm still having a lot of trouble running my full houses into rivered quads. Like ... oh ... 3 times today for stacks ... or how about nut flushes into rivered full houses ... like ... oh ... hey wait ... funny story ... this just happened exactly while I was writing this:

> The_Sikkan posted big blind ($0.20)
> Game # 1,210,324,198 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards [9c] [9h] [Qc] [Ks]
> xzd214 left the table
> hfdbull folded
> pokerzen called for $0.20
> makkarakasa called for $0.20
> Huudi called for $0.10
> The_Sikkan bet for $0.80
> pokerzen folded
> makkarakasa called for $0.80
> Huudi folded
> Dealing the Flop [9s] [9d] [Kh]

And yah ... two people went in for stacks.

... not rigged? It's absolutely disgusting. I believe though that my decision to fold to that raise pre-flop was correct. I was willing to limp it ... but figured that to call a raise was to set myself up for second best hand at best.

I'm getting slaughtered ... brutally. Worst night EVAR. I am down 12 buyins in one night ... and I didn't "gamble" on any of them. I'm getting my money in on stuff like "nut straight on the flop with nut flush redraw" ... and losing. It's really sick.

As many of you know ... I'm not working with much of a bankroll to begin with ... so if this trend continues much longer ... it might be sayonara poker for a little bit. I really can't afford another night like this if I want to keep playing.

As I was winning I was withdrawing money to pay for other things I needed to take care of. I made a $200 deposit early in December, and haven't had to make a deposit since. When I got above a certain level I would withdraw back down to $200 as I figured that was adequate to absorb a swing at 20 PLO. I see now that I was incorrect. If it weren't for having a stellar day yesterday ... I'd be busted out now.
My income covers my expenses ... but if I want to load up a decent bankroll to play fearlessly on these tables (20PLO) ... I'm thinking now that I'd need to drum up about 1K to do it right. I'm not dipping into my household income for that, so I think I may have to call her quits for a bit unless this bs turns around on me.

Anyways ... I'm not busted out yet. Just way to close for my comfort level. It's really touch and go what could happen here ... because I'm now well within standard variance to bust out.

At least I've been getting my money in with the best of it. That I know for sure.

I've still got 7 buyins left ... and have been lower than that before no problem ... I think I'm just bummed about this wicked downswing ... and understanding that it can easily happen again. A lot of smart hard work can go down the tubes in no time with a streak of bad luck. If only a few of these stack-ins had gone differently ... things wouldn't be like this. Let's say I didn't get quadded 3 times today ... one was for 1.5 stacks ... the other 2 were for 1 stack ... that would be 7 more buyins in my bankroll ... and sure I might be venting a bit ... but I'd be down 5 and not 12. Big difference when you run the BR as tight as I have to.

Ah well ... 'nuff bitchin ... I'm either going to bust or I'm not. If I do ... I might be a little bit before I can play again. If I don't ... well then I'll stop withdrawing money and just run the bankroll up this time.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:53 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:57 am

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby black_knight6 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:56 pm

Ya, 500BB of PLO?! ROFL...maybe for LO :P I'd say 30x is absolute min...60x+ for an irreplaceable roll and a pro.
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:16 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:32 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby pokerzen » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:40 pm

<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:43 pm

You move down when it gets to 50 of the lower level.
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Postby pokerzen » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:15 am

I've decided to keep a running total of the number of times I've run my Full Houses into Quads. I may even go through pokertracker and make a backlog. Just cause it's so sick. *lol*

Feb21:
6:14am ~ Flop Kings Full of 8s ... defeated by 88 ~ Pot = $12.18 (he was shortstacked)
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it :)
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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