Zen and the Art of Bankroll Maintenance
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by pokerzen » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:45 am
My morning looked a lot like the New York City skyline. I took a break at about 1000 hands. Came back for another few hundred and they went SWEETLY ... err ... I mean TITE. (20PLO-High)
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by black_knight6 » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:10 pm
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by pokerzen » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:20 pm
Was thinking about it today actually ... given the experience I had on the weekend ... I want to make sure that I'm adequately rolled.
What I'm thinking of doing is spending time where I am ... grinding it out and building the roll until I have about 30-40 buyins for 50. Then I'll test the waters and see how it goes. If I drop like 10 buyins or something right off the bat ... it's back down.
This also gives me some time to build a database on the players at the next level, and rail some games to watch for the differences in overall play. (I don't think it should be too much different ... but we'll see.)
My only other concern is the rake structure. At 20PLO, the max rake is I think 30c a pot. 1 level up that can go way higher (up to $3 on a pot) ... so I've got to factor that in.
What I'm thinking of doing is spending time where I am ... grinding it out and building the roll until I have about 30-40 buyins for 50. Then I'll test the waters and see how it goes. If I drop like 10 buyins or something right off the bat ... it's back down.
This also gives me some time to build a database on the players at the next level, and rail some games to watch for the differences in overall play. (I don't think it should be too much different ... but we'll see.)
My only other concern is the rake structure. At 20PLO, the max rake is I think 30c a pot. 1 level up that can go way higher (up to $3 on a pot) ... so I've got to factor that in.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by oatmealforxmas » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:17 pm
So whats the roll at zen?
I tilted off some of mine, it was super duper Shamdonk...err..MK in a white suit...err...EP9...
Mine is around 945 right now...and hopefully ready to break the 3 digit barrier here
good luck man.
I tilted off some of mine, it was super duper Shamdonk...err..MK in a white suit...err...EP9...
Mine is around 945 right now...and hopefully ready to break the 3 digit barrier here
good luck man.
[12:17] heat517163: i won 26k last month
[12:17] heat517163: and havent bought ANYTHING
[12:17] heat517163: not one thing
[12:17] heat517163: i almost bought a few shirts
[12:17] heat517163: but monicas like
[12:17] heat517163: "you dont need more clothes"
[12:17] heat517163: meh
[12:17] oatsforxmas: ha
[12:17] heat517163: wanted funny shirts
[12:17] heat517163: and havent bought ANYTHING
[12:17] heat517163: not one thing
[12:17] heat517163: i almost bought a few shirts
[12:17] heat517163: but monicas like
[12:17] heat517163: "you dont need more clothes"
[12:17] heat517163: meh
[12:17] oatsforxmas: ha
[12:17] heat517163: wanted funny shirts
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by pokerzen » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:36 pm
+870 my friend. It was another very good day. I played another 1000 hands or maybe more after I posted the chart there. Added another double handful of buyins. I'm really hopin to break the 3 digits this week too if it keeps up. Cheers! 
It was another very good day. I played another 1000 hands or maybe more after I posted the chart there. Added another double handful of buyins. I'm really hopin to break the 3 digits this week too if it keeps up. Cheers! <Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by oatmealforxmas » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:40 pm
Awesome, nice job. Thats like 570 in the last 2 days? Dang.
I will break 1k by the time the sun comes up in California tomorrow, or I will die trying.
You shall not overtake my BR. Not Now, Not Ever.
I will break 1k by the time the sun comes up in California tomorrow, or I will die trying.
You shall not overtake my BR. Not Now, Not Ever.
[12:17] heat517163: i won 26k last month
[12:17] heat517163: and havent bought ANYTHING
[12:17] heat517163: not one thing
[12:17] heat517163: i almost bought a few shirts
[12:17] heat517163: but monicas like
[12:17] heat517163: "you dont need more clothes"
[12:17] heat517163: meh
[12:17] oatsforxmas: ha
[12:17] heat517163: wanted funny shirts
[12:17] heat517163: and havent bought ANYTHING
[12:17] heat517163: not one thing
[12:17] heat517163: i almost bought a few shirts
[12:17] heat517163: but monicas like
[12:17] heat517163: "you dont need more clothes"
[12:17] heat517163: meh
[12:17] oatsforxmas: ha
[12:17] heat517163: wanted funny shirts
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by pokerzen » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:00 pm
I've decided to keep a running total of the number of times I've run my Full Houses into Quads. I may even go through pokertracker and make a backlog. Just cause it's so sick. *lol*
Feb21:
6:14am ~ Flop Kings Full of 8s ... defeated by 88 ~ Pot = $12.18 (he was shortstacked)
Feb22:
12:56PM ~ Flop (QQ)Q99 ... slowplaying the guy with the 9 ... whoops. 9 on the river ~ Pot was small thank god (kept calling instead of raising) ... something like $5.00
Feb21:
6:14am ~ Flop Kings Full of 8s ... defeated by 88 ~ Pot = $12.18 (he was shortstacked)
Feb22:
12:56PM ~ Flop (QQ)Q99 ... slowplaying the guy with the 9 ... whoops. 9 on the river ~ Pot was small thank god (kept calling instead of raising) ... something like $5.00
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by pokerzen » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:15 pm
Yah Oats ... today I run funky though (so far.) It looks like the heart monitor of a cardiac arrest patient.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by black_knight6 » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:19 pm
Very xastonesque session there.
I just started taking shots at 200NL...running VERY hot.
I just started taking shots at 200NL...running VERY hot.
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by kartaska igra » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:46 pm
Congratulations on your great work pokerzen - it looks like the last few days have been dramatic - hope you get to "break the 3 digits this week too" as you say.
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by pokerzen » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:46 pm
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by pokerzen » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:56 am
So like a true donk, I decided ... aah what the heck ... I done goot the last 2 days ... why not take 1 buyin up to the 50PLO table and see what happens. I lasted 3 hands. I was dealt AAxx-ds. 2 diamonds on the flop (yes I had A-x diamonds) and I got all in with a guy. Of course he had a straight, and of course I did not improve ... and of course I was playing like a donk anyway by that time. So yah ~ yesterday = (-$100) overall.
Booooooooo.
Booooooooo.
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by pokerzen » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:21 am
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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by pokerzen » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:15 am
<Big_Leon> start with the RAZZ tourney?
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
<pokerzen1> when did the razz tourney start?
<Big_Leon> starts in 2 minutes
<Big_Leon> just drew seats
<pokerzen1> too late then
<pokerzen1> damn damn damn
<Big_Leon> no, it's not too late gogogogogo
<pokerzen1> what's the tourney number?
<Big_Leon> 55852225
<Big_Leon> password is - irunbad i think
<Big_Leon> irunbad
<pokerzen1> made it
<pokerzen1> okay now how do you play razz?
<Big_Leon> i have no idea
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