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Postby rickjr82 » Fri May 04, 2007 6:52 pm

$9+1 super turbo on bodog blinds 30-60 8 players I have 2300
utg minraises 3 callers
I have 98 in bb, I call

pot 700 or so

flop 987 rainbow
I check
UTG checks
MP (average, slightly aggressive) bets 500
1 fold
button (seems tight and I havent seen make any moves) thinks and calls

Its on me (both have me covered)
What is my play?


What I did underneath:
I minraise, I am more scared of the flat call and i don't want to push into a set or j10 and I want to see how button reacts. I have not made any moves yet and I feel the check min-raise will be scary to anyone


Results:

MP folds
button thinks for 1 second and pushes (1200 to me pot currently has 2700). I decide I have enough to keep playing and fold.






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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri May 04, 2007 7:19 pm

I don't follow what you mean by "top 2". Only top two are paid? The best two players on the table? The two biggest stacks? The top 2 movies at the box office last week that no longer is an important fact to remember for the majority of people in any country on Earth? (sorry got carried away)

PF - fine considering the min-raise, callers, and your BB discount. Play cautiously though - hit big or get out of harm's way.

Flop - I lead this flop about 3/4 PB and 3-bet all-in. As played, check-raise all-in. No other play is good. You have top two-pair on a VERY heavily coordinated board in a multi-way raised pot. Play your hand as fast as possible. Get it all-in on that flop. If someone has a set or straight (they usually won't), GG or mega suck-out. These players totally suck ass and you're giving them way too much credit by assuming a bet, call, or raise must mean they're ahead of Top 2.

edit: Oh... Top 2 = Top 2 pair!
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Postby rickjr82 » Fri May 11, 2007 1:14 pm

Well i messed up, but i will defend myself a little.

I wasn't worried about the initial raiser I just didn't know how to deal with the other caller whose flat call looked like alot of strength to me. I wanted to see how he reacted and he showed alot of strength. On the rainbow board, I just felt his hand range at that point was crushing me and i didn't think my odds were there.

What i wanted: The button to call or fold (or even think awhile and push) and I wasn't concerned with the initial bettor.
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Postby Big_Leon » Fri May 11, 2007 3:12 pm

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