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1/2 NL Hand. Flopped Flush, Now What?

Postby Mad Genius » Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:12 pm

I played an exciting hand recently in a live 1/2 NL Game. The buy-in ranges from 60-300, so I sat with 300. I sat for about an hour and had a stack of about 350 when this hand came up. In the SB, I have [Kc][Qc]. A loose player in LP open-raises to 10. Normally I don't call with KQ here but this guy isn't all that good and he had a decent stack (~220) so I decided to gamble it up and call. BB folds and we are HU.

FLOP: [Tc][6c][3c] (Pot: $22)

No complains about that flop. I check. Villian bets 15. I act for a bit and call.

TURN: [Ad] (Pot: $52)

I lead out for $30. Villian raises to $80. What the heck is this? I go all-in and he beats me to the pot. I believe it was 115 more for the villian to call if it matters.

He showed [As][Ac]. River paired the 6 and he took it down.

Results aside, I want to know how the hand should have been played. I feel like I played the flop wrong; normally I lead out here, but for some reason I froze up and checked. I then decided not to checkraise because I was 99% sure that he didn't have the flush and if he had AK or an overpair I didn't want to scare him off. I then lead out on the turn for a fairly weak bet in hopes of getting raised. I wouldn't expect a great player to raise there with AK but I thought if he had AK (or AQ) he would likely be raising there, whether or not he had the [Ac]. At that point he was pot-committed enough so I put him in.

I was never afraid of him having the flush for 2 reasons:

1. 3 of the 5 broadway clubs were out, so realistically the only hand he could have held was [Ac][Jc]. Whether or not he raises with that, statistically the chances of him having that hand is very slim.

2. He would never bet that flop with a flush when checked to HU.

However, there was a real chance that he had the [Ac], and perhaps I didn't do a good enough job of shutting it out. As it turns out, all our money was going in anyway, but I don't want to be too result-oriented. Does anyone go for the checkraise the turn? Smooth-call the raise and push the river? And if I smooth-call and the 6 comes, do I slow down at all?
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Hard to imagine...

Postby Danhdan » Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:27 pm

I think you were set up for the checkraise on the turn with your check-call on the flop...so, I would have probably done that. Honestly, since he pushed all of his money in immediately in a call to your all-in, he has to be willing to gamble, and he might even think he is ahead here, although I don't know why. But, his beating you to the pot means to me he thought he had the best hand. Even if he puts you on a flush, he still has 17 outs left to hit that will give him a superior hand. Obviously, that is good enough for him.

I would have bet out into the flop, but that is because I don't slowplay anything really. Maybe if you bet the flop and then bet the turn large, he might make a great laydown, but by your description of his skills, I doubt it. But, I still bet it out on the flop and turn.

With your flop play, I checkraise the turn...I don't like waiting for the river to bet up my hands. I don't smooth call though a bet or reraise on the turn, I would push it all in on the turn too. If I had money left on the river and he went all in, I would call the river, even if I didn't want to...but still feel ok about it.
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Postby kennyg » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:01 pm

Your play doesn't look all that bad here. You got in with the best of it.

You don't have to lead out on every flop...there is nothing wrong with a little slowplay with a flopped moster like you had. he hit a runner runner full house and no matter what you did..i doubt he was folding.
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Postby briachek » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:45 pm

It looks like this was a hand that you both were just destined to get your money in with and you were gonna lose. Nothing much you could do here IMO.
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