Im going to post this hand in reverse to demonstate a point. I'll reveal villians cards not mine.
$100 NL at Stars. Blinds .50/$1
MP limps, cutoff limps, you are the villain and limp on the button with [Td]. SB completes. Hero checks in the BB.
Pot is $5. The flop comes [5d][6s]. BB bets $5. Cutoff is a calling station and he calls. You call on the button (not what I would do but its what you did). SB folds.
Pot is now 3 way and is $20. The turn is the . BB bets $5 again. Cutoff folds and you raise to $20 with trip tens. The BB now goes all in and has you covered so the bet is $80 to you and the pot is $140. Do you play for your stack here?

I think it is pretty tough. On one hand the BB has made it VERY obvious that he has a powerful holding. First You lead into the field for the size of the pot on the flop and then when top pair pairs on the turn you make a pretty obvious weak lead, $5 into the now $20 pot. The problem is that while you are representing a monster, I hold a monster myself. 5-5, 6-6, 10-K, and 10-A are the only hands that are beating me here and you checked on the BB and could have any of these or a 10 with a worse kicker. Of course, with the BBs weak lead the BB has to know that I have a 10, or am at least representing one, yet the BB is still coming over the top of my raise huge. You've gotta be (A) really confident in your kicker or (B) have me dominated in some way. I really think it comes down to a question of whether or not I think my Queen is good, and to be completely honest I don't know if I could get away from the hand.

I'd say that the BB has 55 or 66 and didn't want to slowplay his set because of the draws. If BB has AT he would probably be concerned about villain having a boat, given the smooth call on the flop, so it's not likely that he would reraise that turn with that. From villains point of view there is hardly a possible holding of the BB that he can beat. So he is drawing to 3 outs, or a 5 or 6 for a split pot.
Therefore villain should fold and ask himself why he just called the flop.

Or am I overlooking something?

Pieter

That depends -- what sort of read do I have on this 'Hero' guy?

I fold this. The only hands I'm beating are a T with a worse kicker, or a maybe a semibluff flush & straight draw. I see both of those as far less likely than trips or two pair that turned into a full house.

This is a bit tough. If we were talking about Party Poker I think it's an easy call, both because the blinds are bigger and the bets would have been bigger leading up to the all-in decision, and because the players are more aggressive with mediocre hands.

In this situation you have to be afraid of flopped sets, flopped two pairs (that are now a full house), or trips with a better kicker (K or A). That's really a lot of hands, and all of them could be played that way by the BB.

The BB lead on the turn with a $5 bet into a $20 pot. This is either a blocking bet or a weak bet to induce a raise. Most players would not lead out on the flop and turn with just a flush draw or straight draw against two or more players. So I would imagine the BB has one of the hands that beat you, or something like a flush AND straight draw or a pair and a flush draw. So even if the villain is ahead he probably has to dodge some outs on the river.

I guess since the villain has only put in $26 into the pot and has to call $80 to see if he's ahead he should probably fold and wait for a better time.

I listen to the first rule I learned:
If the board pairs, and you do not have a full house, fold.
All-in bet to you, implies such a holding.
The BB got to see the flop for free and bet the pot(2 pair? T 5 is possible here)
The board paired on the turn, Now I have trips, but he went all-in,
2 outs to catch a bigger boat with the Q, or 1 ten out, but it may be in his hand.
Hate to fold trips, but not worth my stack here.

Most people that I play with could never lay down that hand. They dont spend enough time thinking about what the other guy has and they dont want to be bluffed out of a big pot. They see that they have 3 tens and thats all they see. Alot of times, trips is NOT a great hand. If you get heavy action from a tight solid player you have to lay it down most times. I see hands all the time where the board is something like QA7A5 and the bets and raises go crazy. One guy has A9 and loses. Well, duh, the other guy either has a higher kicker, has a lower kicker that matches the board (7 or 5 in this case) or he has a set that turned into a boat. A9 to heavy action sucks there.
In this case he has a queen kicker but he even worse off because the hero (which was me in this hand) in in the blind.

Lets replay the hand from my perspective. I see a free flop with [5c]. The flop is [5d][6s]. I bet the pot ($5) because theres a flush draw. The first guy is a calling station and calls. Second guy (villain) calls also.
Now the pot is $20 and the falls. I now have a boat so I purposely bet $5 into the $20 pot hoping that one or both of them will chase the flush and hit it. Calling station folds but villain raises. Obviously he has a ten and hes proud of it so I go all in and pray he cant lay it down. He called and I cleaned him out.

QT is NOT a strong hand in that situation. His raise was perfect but once he announces that he has a ten and I make it clear that I dont care by going all in, its a must fold. AT would be very tough to fold but I still would probably lay it down if I knew the guy was tight aggressive.

I would not call that against a solid BB in a million years, I'm surprised that some considered it even! Surely being the blind, he could easily hold any of the possible boats, and with that weedy Q kicker I think you have to have a specific read that the BB is a very loose, poor, aggressive player to call. Don't forget, he has just RE-raised all in against a raiser in LP, so he basically KNOWS he's up against a T that was called (and thus probably TJ, TQ, TK or TA). BB's gotta be beating QT 9 times out of ten here if he's a decent player.

Monk
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What can I say? I went through the situation, saw that there was a good chance that I'm beat, but I'm still trying to work out the fishiness of not being able to follow through with a fold here all the time. I actually lost a hand similar to this the other day (though I was playing for a much smaller amount than my stack) and was frustrated about not being able to fold when I should have been able to. Gotta keep working on it.

Monk, dont you just hate it when you are as smart and good at poker as you obviously are....and you still cant seem to win sometimes? Thats just aint right!

iceman,

Without knowing anything extraordinary about the big blind - I raise on the flop. If he calls then I very well may be beat but I found out cheap. (Certainly if he raises I'm gone) Most players who have filled up with the second ten on the turn are going to check it to you to give yourself an opportunity to hang yourself = but if he called by flop raise - I'm checking too..