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Postby k3nt » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:46 am

FR game at Cake.

Hero is in MP with KK and raises to 3x the big blind first in. Gets 1 caller OTB. No reads. Both of us have about 120 BBs to start the hand.

Pot is 7.5 BBs and the flop is [9h][6c][4h]. Hero bets 6 BBs, one fold, Villain minimum raises, Hero "clicks it back", Villain thinks a while and calls.

Pot is 43.5 BBs. [3d]. Hero checks, Villain bets 30 BBs, Hero calls.

Pot is 103.5 BBs. [3c]. Hero checks, Villain is all-in for 70 BBs, Hero thinks for a while and decides to make the call.

What's your opinion of this play at ...

$25 NL?
$100 NL?
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Postby NVG » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:21 pm

On Cake $200NL 6 Max, I find the flop min raise to be much weaker in general (TPWK, Draw, etc) than the turn min raise which is generally a monster. I would 3bet the flop and commit myself. Like UA said, make the flop 3bet larger.
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Postby MTPaid » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:41 pm

Are we being site specific too or just stakes specific?

Anyway, the higher the stakes, the more I like the stack off. The lower the stakes, the less most of them have the guts to stack off on a bluff. Not that I'm not sure they aren't sticking it in with a set on the flop at most levels though so it looks more like a draw and only 1 of them got there.
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Postby equus » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:18 am

Villain has position and shoves the river after you check. Is he shoving A9 here? TT/JJ? This just looks like he's either bluffing or has a big hand. Does the flop/turn look like he's bluffing? Only hands we caught up with are flopped 2-pair and that doesn't look very likely at all. I fold but then I just play $25 (and maybe this is a reason why).
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Postby k3nt » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:56 pm

Thanks for the feedback.

This was $100 NL at Cake. I was the villain in this hand, and I had zippo. I thought I had a read that this guy only raised smallish preflop with low to medium pairs, so I had him on 99 or less, and therefore either a set, which didn't fit his betting pattern, or else something that couldn't possibly call down. I also had him as a semi-thinking player, better than most at this level at Cake, not a calling station. And I was right in a way: he took all of his time to call my river shove.

If I had had any clue he had KK I wouldn't have tried it.

Meh. Just another example of why there's no need to bluff at the $100s.
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Postby equus » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:40 am

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Postby k3nt » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:19 am

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