***** Hand History for Game 2676712852 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 08, 15:20:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 30524 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: eeezzzmuneyy ( $296.50 )
Seat 2: fanboiemil ( $564.50 )
Seat 5: MeMyselfIren ( $190 )
Seat 6: mistahree1 ( $1602.82 )
fanboiemil posts small blind [$5].
MeMyselfIren posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MeMyselfIren [ 5d 7c ]
mistahree1 folds.
eeezzzmuneyy folds.
fanboiemil raises [$15].
MeMyselfIren calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 5c, 8s ]
fanboiemil bets [$10].
MeMyselfIren calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
fanboiemil bets [$20].
>You have options at Table 10803 (6 max) Table!.
MeMyselfIren calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
fanboiemil bets [$20].
MeMyselfIren calls [$20].

Anyone else ever play situations like this? I just can't really find a sport for a raise, or a fold, so I simply call.

I think I would have went for the raise on the turn when that 3 hit and take a free showdown if he calls if one is given.

I thought about that but I didn't want to stop him from betting things like KQ and A9 or even something stupid like Q3s that he decided to raise with, on the river.

I have been in about a million situations like this - this is the ultimate plight of the SH player- defending your BB with crap and flopping a garbagy hand. What to do with it?

just calling is a decent way to maximize profit since people will often fire the last barrel at you on the end, hoping you were on a draw, figuring that you probably wouldve raised somewhere along the way with a pair...Its a good way to play against someone who is really LAG, who could three bet your flop CR with overcards and fire it back into you with no pair. Against someone like this, i will do what you did.



Against a more conventional player I usually CR the flop here and lead the turn if he doesnt three bet me, because when my hand is as weak as yours is, i am both
(a) not really wanting him peeling cards off for cheap, and
(b) willing to lay it down if he turns the heat up on me (player dependent though)


Just inducing bluff bet after bluff bet is cool but i just think that that works better when your hand is stronger- trouble with 'just calling' is that you will often get a check behind on the turn which is a bad thing for your hand. Also, if he three bets you, or raises you up on the turn, i am usually willing to let this go, and i think that ultimately saves money.

So i dunno- i guess its player dependent.

Mecos I will excuse your sorry excuse for a reply, which is heavily dependant on me being out of position, which is simply not the case here

Ohhhhhhh i get it! It was the SB coming after your bb. HIghly inadvisable indeed!

so THATS what piers's free showdown thing was about. I thought he was just drunk, as usual!

Okay then- well played sir!