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Postby iceman5 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:31 pm

PL O8 $25

UTG goes all in for $5. I reraised all in to $22 with [Ah][Kh][5d][3d]

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Postby Rhound50 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:56 am

You have a semistrong hand Ice, this is like playing pocket 8's in holdem. With your hand there isnt a heck of a lot that you dominate but at the same time there isnt a heck of a lot that dominates you. You are even money or close vs most hands.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:37 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:15 pm

That hand needs a good flop to be a winner. You can trap someone who overplays a weak made hand (like 2 pair) if you hit a collosal flop, like 2[d] 4[d] x.... Without the big flop, though, it's nothing special. PLenty of people wouldn't raise it even (though I would).

O8 is mostly a game played from the flop and beyond, unlike holdem. Even A234 double suited, a collosal O8 hand, is not that great heads up and loses a lot of equity compared to a multiway volume pot. The only hand that plays particularly well heads-up (and thus is worth getting all-in in a NL game) is AA with another wheel card, and partiucluarly AA2 (and particularly if one or both aces are suited!). Other big two-way hands with a high pair and A2 are probably worth playing that way also, if people are willing to call with weaker A2 holdings; you could consider this play with AQQ2 and AKK2 etc. Other than that, you don't want to move all in preflop very often.
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