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Postby k3nt » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:41 pm

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Postby k3nt » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:36 pm

Oh, by the way, I *am* looking for responses to this post. I realize I didn't ask any questions, so maybe that's not obvious.

Anybody with ANYTHING to say about the issue, please jump in. Thanks.
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Postby striker2550 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:58 pm

While I understand their position, I dont agree w/ it. Unless they put withdraw/deposit restrictions w/ the offer right up front. Far as Im concerned u have every right to that bonus. Shame on them for not honoring it.
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Postby Molina » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:26 pm

If it takes 4 or 5 redosits for them to get annoyed I'm not surprised, but then you've earnt bonus you wouldn't have before the promotion started.

I mean, technically, yeah, it isn't bottomless but in a era where Party, the biggest site out there tightens up markedly on the lower limit tables, bonus whoring really seems to be becoming a problem, for the sites and for the poker players that don't bonus whore.

I mean, a bonus should be exactly that, not the only reason to play. People seem to be building bankroll to play higher limits even though the haven't proper experience as they've been concerned with earning the bonus and not playing the best game they can.

I don't mean to attck you kent, or anyone else who bonus whores but there is bound to be a point where reload bonuses are specific invitations to individuals and not an invitation to be slowly bled of their money. I know the response to this is 'well I play my normal winning game and the bonus is exactly that'. As true as that may be, at a time when the games may never be juicier, they're being tightened up considerably by reload bonuses.

Just my opinion, I'm not having a go at anyone in particular, just that bonus whoring is demonstrably drying up the tables.

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Postby 80Proof » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:27 pm

I have never played there and have not read their T&Cs but I agree.....unless they state specifics in their T&Cs, I dont see why you shouldn't be entitled to take advantage. I guess just try to work the system with what BR you have available.
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:28 pm

Maybe you could write them back and make up some BS about how you had planned on leaving it in there but had some monetary emergencies that required you to withdraw your funds but after you got them taken care of you felt like redepositing. It aint like they have any business caring what you do with your own money. You shouldn't even have to resort to doing crap like I just suggested. They are so good about making a big deal about the bottomless bonus that it's their own fault if some people decide to take advantage of it.
Have you seen their TV commercials they have now? They tout bodog.net in them and make it look all exciting and sexy and then at the end of the commercial in small letters at the bottom of the screen it says "not a gambling site" or something along those lines. Granted the ".net" is their way around the US laws about online gambling but they know that if people go to Bodog.net they will most likely end up at Bodog.com which IS a gambling site. They want their cake and want to eat it too by shadily getting around US laws with "technically" legal commercials but then don't want to let people use their bonus system to their own advantage. Sounds like typical greedy casino folks to me. There is no way in hell that the bonuses are eating into their profits enough to actually warrant sending people letters like the one you got. It's all about the greed. In fact, if I may continue to rant, when they worry about crap like this when they are doing almost nothing for the money in the first place it makes me sick. It aint like they are gambling their money to make a profit. Or doing back breaking work for it. Not in the least. But you and I are if we want to try and make a buck there. We put our money on the line every time we get involved in a hand. And although it may not break my back, it sure does get sore from the hours I spend in my computer chair trying to make a profit at this game. They even have one up on the real casinos because they don't have ANY overhead compared to a real casino. What, some computers and the folks to run them? Some software? Maybe some cheap rent for a building to house it all in? And I do mean cheap, remember they are located in Costa Rica. Hell they probably own the building and paid a dirt cheap price for it. Then add in all the money they make from their sportsbook and their casino and you have a GIANT amount of money which is mostly profit. So when they worry about crap like someone whoring their bonus system which THEY came up with, well, it really kinda sickens me. And now they are even lowering the amount of the bonus that they allow you to get if you are good enough to lose all your money at their tables and want to spend more. Combine that with the fact that they don't use a hand history similar to most everyone elses that can be read by Poker Tracker, and I don't see myself going back there anymore after seeing your letter Kent. Regardless of the fact that they have the best customer service around when you have a problem. Well, a problem with the poker that is.

Sorry if this kinda rambled or didn't make total sense, but I got on a roll and couldn't type fast enough to get all my thoughts out perfect. But I think you can see that I'm irritated that what used to be one of the best, if not THE best, poker site around has become one of the greediest ones out there. Geez I wish I had the money to start my own poker site. Make it kind of a non profit site. :P Well, maybe not "non" profit, but certainly low profit and honest and above board so there was no question about any of this. I think it would draw a HUGE number of players away from the other sites.

Good enough for ya Kent? :D
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Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:26 am

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Postby LuparFiend » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:21 am

Is the bonus at BoDog easy to clear? At what levels do you need to play at to clear the bonus? Oh, and are the initial signup bonus and the reload bonus the same?
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Postby k3nt » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:15 am

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Postby Cactus Jack » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:11 am

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Postby MVPSPORTS » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:40 pm

You can do that... but for us lazy forgetful guys... You can just call the customer service line at Bodog... For whatever you want to say good or bad about them, they 100% have the BEST Customer Service in online poker....
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Postby SebQtaneus » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:32 pm

MVPSPORTS,
I agree about their customer support and said the same in my little rant. It's just all the other things I mentioned about them that gets me going.
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