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Postby Ichoi » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:30 am

Like I said, I've played against this player before probably in several thousand hands. and this is the first time in months I've called with king high. I can't explain exactly why I didn't think he had it, I just didn't.

As far as not raising, well that's easy, if he has nothing I want him to keep pounding away at the small pot.

In this particular hand with him betting the turn there is 3 big bets + his bet, I make more if I call and let him possibly draw to 3-6 outs, but also firing on the river hopelessly with a loser if he doesn't improve.


If I just call and let him bet at the river with nothing, I'm risking 5 bets (If I raise the turn, he folds, I win 4 there, but I also include the 1 more bet I pay out on the river when he does improve by me allowing him to draw) to win 1 bet more. So that's 5:1 there, and even if he has 2 live cards (6 outs out of 44), that's 7.33:1. Making the turn call the obvious right move, assuming he will fire at the river at least 65% of the time with an unimproved hand worse than K high (And I think he will here)

In this case, he didn't even have 6, he had 3. 44:3 which is 11.3:1 chance of letting him draw out vs risking 5 bets to win 1 more. In this case, he only had to fire at the river ~40% of the time to make calling the turn correct if I think he really has nothing but 2 random cards.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:22 pm

Villain was slightly LAGgy. Since he raised pre-flop and didn't cap, I put him on random big cards - just like me! Except mine were AK - the best unpaired hand.

STAGE #211937009: HOLDEM NORMAL $0.50/$1 - 2005-10-25 03:34:55 (ET)
Table: HAMLET DR. (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ESCAPEPLAN9 [Kc Ah]
CUSVX - Calls $0.50
LANKFOREVER - Folds
DEMONACES - Raises $1 to $1
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Raises $1.25 to $1.50
THE GECCO - Folds
CUSVX - Folds
DEMONACES - Calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6c 2d 8h]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Bets $0.50
DEMONACES - Calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [6c 2d 8h] [10c]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Checks
DEMONACES - Bets $1
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Calls $1
*** RIVER *** [6c 2d 8h 10c] [10d]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Checks
DEMONACES - Bets $1
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DEMONACES - Shows [7d As] (One pair, tens)
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Shows [Kc Ah] (One pair, tens)
ESCAPEPLAN9 Collects $8.55 from main pot
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:26 pm

Villain was moderately loose and aggressive, nothing outrageous though. The board was very well coordinated and he probably put me on two big cards, so I decided to call down UI unless there was four to a straight out there.

STAGE #212294899: HOLDEM NORMAL $1/$2 - 2005-10-25 19:44:27 (ET)
Table: HUMMINGBIRD AVE (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ESCAPEPLAN9 [Kd Ah]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Raises $2 to $2
OAK5033 - Folds
RIKIHE - Calls $2
LIDDPS - Folds
POKERHDOG - Folds
*** FLOP *** [6c 7d 8s]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Bets $1
RIKIHE - Raises $2 to $2
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Calls $1
*** TURN *** [6c 7d 8s] [Jh]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Checks
RIKIHE - Bets $2
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Calls $2
*** RIVER *** [6c 7d 8s Jh] [2c]
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Checks
RIKIHE - Bets $2
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RIKIHE - Shows [10h Ks] (king high)
ESCAPEPLAN9 - Shows [Kd Ah] (ace high)
ESCAPEPLAN9 Collects $16.75 from main pot
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