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Why am I getting destroyed over at bet365?

Postby LuparFiend » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:00 pm

I'm playing over there mainly for the nice bonus. $10 for every 50 raked hands at 1/2 limit. I'm thinking that it isn't worth it.

Take a look at my Pokertracker numbers:

Total Hands: 588
Amount won: ($75.50) [Yep, negative $75.50]
BB/100: (6.42)

VP$IP: 22.11% (130 out of 588)
Raise PF: 10.37%

Went to Showdown: 30.77% (48 out of 156)
Won $ at SD: 43.75% (21 out of 48)


Saw flop all hands: 26.53%
Saw flop not a blind: 15.48 %
Folded SB to Steal: 8 out of 9
Folded BB to Steal: 4 out of 18
Fold BB to Steal HU: 1 out of 13

Att to Steal Blinds: 34.55% (19 out of 55)
Steal Success:
No Flop %: 26%
Fold%: 21.05%
Ww/oSD%: 42.11%
WSD%: 36.84%
W$SD%: 71.43

Aggression Factors:
PF: 0.70
Flop: 2.30
Turn: 2.28
River: 1.56
Total: 1.30

total pocket Pairs: 38 (38/588 = 6.46%)
Hit Sets: 2 (2/38 = 5.26%)

AA: 3 wins out of 3 times; $ per hand: $5.92
KK 0
QQ: 3 for 4 (1 set); $/hand: $1.25
JJ: 1 for 2; $/hand: $2.75
TT: 0 for 1; $/hand: -$3.00
99: 0 for 1
88: 1 for 4; $/hand: -$2.75
77: 1 for 2
66: 0 for 2
55: 1 for 4 (1 set); $/hand: $0.63
44: 1 for 3; $/hand: $1.50
33: 0 for 4
22: 2 for 8; $/hand: $0.13

My top winning hands:
K7o - 4 for 7; Total$: $23.75
AA
QJs - 2 for 3; Total$: $16.25
K2o - 2 for 8; Total$: $11.00
T9s - 1 for 3; Total$: $10.50
K3o - 1 for 8; Total$: $6.00

Other big hands.
AK (suited and Unsuited) 4 for 9; Total$: -$4.75
AQ (suited and Unsuited) 7 for 11; Total$: $5.25


So, I've gotten the big hands (AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo) 29 times

So Tier 1 hands (I think those are tier 1 hands) 29 out of 588 = 4.93%


Am I just getting really bad cards? What do my numbers tell you? It seems no one is folding to any of my bets. And I am losing a lot of hands to pair over pair ( I have JJ, dude to my left has QQ, and all under cards). that seems to happen a lot.

The tables over at bet365 seems to be really really tight aggressive. Every single hand has at least one raiser, and it is folded to the CO or button a lot.

Am I defending my blinds to much? if yo ulook at my top hands listing, there are some wacky hands there. More than likely that was because I defened my blind. Obviously I am not going to enter a pot with K2o.

What else can I tell you. I need help with my limit game bad. I kick azz in SNGs (See my journal for those stories)

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Postby Xaston » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:30 pm

I'm pretty sure your VP$IP and PFR are too big for full table. I don't play them much so I wouldn't know but if I remember correctly an ideal VP$IP is more like 17%.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:30 pm

Full ring VP$IPs should be closer to 14-18% depending on table conditions.
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Postby piersmajestyk » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:34 pm

Your problem probably lies in that I am now there clearing bonuses and gutting you :lol: . Had a fairly tough run there myself after starting out on fire and now standing pretty much at even without counting the bonuses.

I think you are playing too many pots particularly for that game which is infested with alot of aggressive players. Tighten up and bust them up with your really good hands and let the mediocre stuff hit the muck.
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Postby LuparFiend » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:33 pm

What about my blind defence? I read you experts post your stories about defending your blinds all the time? If i am in the BB with a mediocre hand like K6o, and its folded to the buton who raises? Should I just fold and let him steal my blind?
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Postby piersmajestyk » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:48 pm

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Postby Drade » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:15 pm

What about my blind defence? I read you experts post your stories about defending your blinds all the time?

We all know that poker is a game where a variety of styles work, though not all work for everyone. Piers has been playing poker longer than a lot of us have been alive. He knows what works for him and he does it well. I assume poker's a hobby for you and you're not an expert. You're playing 1/2 so I assume you're relaltively new to the game. Like Piers said, anybody can defend their blind with any cards, but only a good player should, since what you do after the flop is the important part of the equation, and most players don't play well enough post flop to defend with any two.

If you're relatively new to the game, I'd advise you to defend your blind less often. Focus on playing strong hands and defending your blind only with hands that merit it. Spend time at these lower limits to find what works for you. Develop a blind defense style that you're comfortable with and works for you. Continue to read Piers and Mecos, and Xaston, and Norton, and Briacheck and whoever else you fancy, but rather than reading the plays, focus on their motives for defending how they do. Look for those situations in your own play, and then expand the hands you defend your blinds with from there.

I respect Piers tremendously, but his style of play doesn't work for me. Rather than trying to mold your style of play after somebody, I'd advise you discover what works for you, and then find what portions of others play you can incorporate into your own game.
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Postby Kuso » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:32 pm

i'm no limit expert, but i can add some general poker ideas on top of what others have said:

1) You may just be experiencing normal variance.

2) You may not have adapted your game to the prevailing style at that site. Specifically, you might want to look at the role of raises in your -- it seems like you are getting less fold equity than you normally expect.
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