Omaha Hi $0.25-$0.50 PL (real money), hand #1,622,054,607
Table Mechelen, 22 Dec 2005 8:40 PM ET

Seat 1: McDoodie
Seat 2: morpheus1111
Seat 3: stickdude [ 2S,10C,KS,QH ]
Seat 5: TrumpTight13
Seat 6: jaycomeg
Seat 7: chimichonga
Seat 8: MoJo952
Seat 9: kruk01
Seat 10: Bexy
ANTES/BLINDS
stickdude posts blind ($0.25), TrumpTight13 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
jaycomeg folds, chimichonga folds, MoJo952 calls $0.25, kruk01 folds, Bexy calls $0.25, McDoodie calls $0.25, morpheus1111 calls $0.25, stickdude checks, TrumpTight13 checks.

FLOP [board cards JC,9D,10D ]
stickdude bets $1.50, TrumpTight13 calls $1.50, MoJo952 folds, Bexy bets $7.50, McDoodie folds, morpheus1111 calls $7.50, stickdude bets $12, TrumpTight13 folds, Bexy bets $10.65 and is all-in, morpheus1111 bets $14.50 and is all-in, stickdude calls $5.15 and is all-in.

Does anybody not end up all-in here with the nut straight?

I probably would have folded preflop because of the hanger (the 2s) but I am trying to play pretty tight since my last free fall.

After the flop, the board is a bit scary with 2 diamonds and your hand has none so you are not taking away anyones flush cards. Of course if a Q or K lands then a higher str8 comes into play to since you dont have the ace. So that flop would worry me greatly. But I'm still learning. By the way the betting went i am assuming one of them has the a flush draw, perhaps the ace. Worse case someone has the same str8 as you but also has a flush and/or Ace str8 draw to go with it.

I am thinking atm you are fighting for a split pot and perhaps a dog to a better drawing hand.

Just my two coppers

Yeah, that's a crappy situation (pretty similar to one I just posted actually).

You can wait for a safe turn to try and get all in, or you can fold it, or you can get the money in now.

Got a 3-headed coin to flip?

Now, does it change anybody's evaluation of the hand if there's no flush draw on the flop? i.e. the flop is 9TJ rainbow?

Here's what twodimes.net gives for the hand as played:

Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Jc Td 9d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs 6c Ad 4d 190 28.53 470 70.57 6 0.90 0.290
Ks 2s Tc Qh 251 37.69 409 61.41 6 0.90 0.381
9s Qd 8d 9h 219 32.88 447 67.12 0 0.00 0.329

And here is what is shows for a rainbow flop:

Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Jc 9d Th
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs 6c Ad 4d 85 12.76 572 85.89 9 1.35 0.134
Ks 2s Tc Qh 353 53.00 304 45.65 9 1.35 0.537
9s Qd 8d 9h 219 32.88 447 67.12 0 0.00 0.329


Of course, it's doubtful there's as much action on the flop with a rainbow board...